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TimCNY 
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Posted: 05 Apr 2019 at 9:51am |
Yes, I searched before asking. Just wondering what you guys are using, besides just a punch. I know that Steiner's and a few other sites have some but state they will not work on WD or WD45. I'm leaning more toward these - https://www.browntool.com/Listview/tabid/344/CategoryID/336/Level/a/ProductID/156/Default.aspx , https://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/topages/brakeliningrivset.php , but don't know if the throat clearance is sufficient for the center rivet. This one - https://stores.djstractorparts.com/large-brake-riveting-tool/ some reviews state not enough clearance for WD45, but the clearance seems to be larger than the other two I mentioned. Open to any that work well. Doing it with just a couple of punches and a vise isn't fast or effiecient, at least not for me. Thanks! - Tim
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Posted: 05 Apr 2019 at 10:15am |
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I have the aircraft spruce on in my hanger. I think it has an inch of throat space. I'll try to get down to the hanger and measure it. I've never used it on a WD but it sure works great on a Cessna. when we did my Dads tractor many years ago we used a punch clamped in the vise for a backing and a rivet set on the back side it takes two people to do it that way.
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TimCNY
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Posted: 05 Apr 2019 at 11:01am |
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lol, most of the work seems to be a two-man job for me! Thanks, Dave.
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Posted: 05 Apr 2019 at 1:26pm |
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LOL, two men and one of em with three arms!
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Posted: 05 Apr 2019 at 1:37pm |
McMaster-Carr has special punches to roll the hollow brass rivits rather than just smashing with a reguler punch. Also had other to make a star like most clutch rivits have.
The first tool in the link looks very handy. I have done a number of bands for my old cat D6's. I have a friend with a old cast iron tool with the drill attackment that was common in old time brake shops. But it tipped in a earthquake and broke. But then with old times desease I have not warn any brakes out as of late ether.
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Posted: 06 Apr 2019 at 9:17am |
In my opinion, the easiest (and by far the best) option is to ship them to Rick Corder and have him do the work. They will look like new and perform better than any (aftermarket) relining material I have found.
Some jobs are nice to do at home, but clutches and brakes come out better when done by a pro and Rick is the best pro I have found !
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Posted: 06 Apr 2019 at 11:24am |
 WF owner wrote:
In my opinion, the easiest (and by far the best) option is to ship them to Rick Corder and have him do the work. They will look like new and perform better than any (aftermarket) relining material I have found.
Some jobs are nice to do at home, but clutches and brakes come out better when done by a pro and Rick is the best pro I have found ! |
I agree with that plan. Darrel
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Posted: 06 Apr 2019 at 5:13pm |
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That special tool is called a rivet set.its a punch with a concaved surface.
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Posted: 06 Apr 2019 at 5:14pm |
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That special tool is called a rivet set.its a punch with a concaved surface.
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Posted: 06 Apr 2019 at 9:16pm |
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I bought a tool from Steiner a couple years ago to do my wd45 brakes but turns out it was not wide enough. They were great when I phoned and offered all my money back. I ended up keeping it. I used a punch in a vise and their rivet punch to do the job. About an hour to do all shoes. Fast enough for a once in 60 year brake job. :-)
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Posted: 07 Apr 2019 at 7:05am |
WF owner wrote:
In my opinion, the easiest (and by far the best) option is to ship them to Rick Corder and have him do the work. They will look like new and perform better than any (aftermarket) relining material I have found.
Some jobs are nice to do at home, but clutches and brakes come out better when done by a pro and Rick is the best pro I have found ! |
I knew I'd get the answer I need if I asked. I did not think of that. Problem solved. Thanks!
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Posted: 07 Apr 2019 at 7:10am |
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...only downside, shipping there and back again may end up being more than the cost of the tool lol!!!
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Posted: 07 Apr 2019 at 12:26pm |
Tim, I went out to the barn and found a brake lining. I wanted to locate a shoe as well but couldn't lay my hands on one readily. If you saw my barn you would understand why. LOL It appears that the throat on the Aircraft Spruce rivet tool would be wide enough to reach the center holes even if the lining were installed in the shoe. How far are you from Cobleskill? Maybe I could come up to your place and I could try out my rivet tool on your shoes. I don't have any brake jobs lined up and I could then see how well it works in case I ever need it. Wow....I downsized that pic but maybe not quite enuf!
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Posted: 07 Apr 2019 at 1:03pm |
Thanks, Brian, I figure I'm about 65-70 miles from you, depending on the route taken. And the shortest distance doesn't necessarily mean shortest time, lol. I think I may have a break from Grampa duties on Tuesday and drive over, if that works for you. And your barn sounds like a palace compared to mine!  But after a couple of private messages with Rick, I may not want these linings... I'll be heading to the farm in a few minutes, I'll check the linings then but they may well be the ones I'm not going to be pleased with. Until Rick brought me up to speed, I had no idea the differences in linings available. Glad I started this thread if for no other reason! 
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Posted: 07 Apr 2019 at 4:24pm |
From experience, I can tell you the stuff Rick uses is the best I've seen. Some of the aftermarket stuff out there is not worth using.
Changing the brakes in most AC tractors is quite a job. I have used inferior products and not been happy with the results. I have been very happy with the ones I got from Rick!
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Posted: 07 Apr 2019 at 6:14pm |
Tuesday won't work....got a funeral to go to that day....However, I am retired so I am available most days.
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Posted: 07 Apr 2019 at 6:22pm |
WF owner wrote:
From experience, I can tell you the stuff Rick uses is the best I've seen. Some of the aftermarket stuff out there is not worth using. |
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The lining in my picture came from a tractor I "parted out". It is a little worn but I kept it as it seems to be made of better stuff than I have seen in aftermarket linings. Unfortunately, I have only enough for 1 wheel; the other one was not worth saving.
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Changing the brakes in most AC tractors is quite a job. I have used inferior products and not been happy with the results. I have been very happy with the ones I got from Rick! [/QUOTE]
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On the WD/WD-45/D-17, the biggest problem are those damnable pins..... Riveting on the linings is not a bad job.....even without the tool.....just tedious and time consuming.
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Posted: 07 Apr 2019 at 6:40pm |
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How good are the A & I brake shoes? Thst's what I ended up with.
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Posted: 08 Apr 2019 at 7:08am |
OK thanks, Brian. I've decided that I'm going to send them off to Rick, there's plenty I've learned from him over the past couple of days that I never knew regarding brake shoes linings. Never had a clue. I'm used to always working alone (not necessarily by choice!) so I guess I only knew one way - go buy parts and get it done. I like Rick's way better. 
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