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2-4-D harmful to cats???

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    Posted: 27 Mar 2019 at 9:07pm
I've started spraying my fields today. I went up to my neighbor's house. He has 10 acres that he lets me cut for hay. I asked him if he cared if I sprayed it as well. He asked me if it was harmful to animals. I couldn't give him an honest answer. I told him I didn't know, but I was fixing to spray my pastures and the cows was going to eat it. He wasn't worried that much about his dogs. But he was afraid his cats would walk through it and then lick their selves and die. I'm sure it's not good for them, probably not good for cows either. As far as that goes, it's probably not good for me either. It's been a few hours and I've showered, and I still smell it on my hands.

He is going to let spray. He did ask how wet it would get, and how long to dry. I said there would be little droplets on the grass, but should be dry in ten minutes. One thing about it, I can't promise it won't hurt his cats. I know I wouldn't lick any of it off of me, that's for sure.
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We've always sprayed with cows on the pasture and never had a problem. Cows and cats are two different things though
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READ THE LABEL! As an applicator you are supposed to know this.
I have both my private applicators license and commercial applicators license.
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Agent Orange is a herbicide and defoliant chemical, one of the "tactical use" Rainbow Herbicides. It is widely known for its use by the U.S. military as part of its herbicidal warfare program, Operation Ranch Hand,[1] during the Vietnam War from 1961 to 1971.[2] It is a mixture of equal parts of two herbicides, 2,4,5-T and 2,4-D. In addition to its damaging environmental effects, traces of dioxin (mainly TCDD, the most toxic of its type)[3] found in the mixture have caused major health problems for many individuals who were exposed. Always protect yourself and avoid exposing animals and others to chemicals!2-4-D can be used safely and effectively as long as you follow the label! 
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https://assets.greenbook.net/L107803.pdf

The 2-4D he would be spraying is a 2-4D ester and doesn't have the defoliant component to the chemical. The proper restriction for reentry for grazing animals is 7 days after application. Agent orange is a paraquat and kills everything it touches. The label I attached is for Radar LV that I use here at work. (Fertilizer Dealer plant manager aka mix man) I would tell your neighbor to try and secure his cats to a barn or shed for a week.
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Anytime I spray or fertilize, I keep my animals off until it rains.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote DiyDave Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 Mar 2019 at 5:51pm
As far as 2,4-d herbicide goes its not dangerous to cats.  But for every herbicide there is a liar, er lawyer that specializes in suing the particular chemical manufacturer.  As juries get dumber, and more removed from knowing anything about agriculture, I fear that the slide into ignorance is getting steeper...
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when we sprayed 2-4-D near the house, we made sure the critters were away from that field for at least 5-6 hours. never had any problems
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also I think the smell would keep them away too.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote DMiller Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Mar 2019 at 6:17am
What I find funny in all this is Tordon. Was at a supply center when a old fella was ranting about a neighbors dog always doing its business on his side of the road, guy behind the counter picked up a bottle of tordon said to put it in water where the dog could drink it, won't harm the pooch but everything he would pee on would die at his real home. Guy was back 2 months later laughing his butt off, not a shrub or flower on the other place was alive and the dog had been given away.

Roundup/glyphosate is a salts compound, it affects how plants produce energy thru chlorophyll reaction, it is not a paraquat type herbicide as so many are led to believe. Essentially Not a herbicide as a systemic growth response control. Plant cannot feed or derive feed from sunlight so dies.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote wide Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Mar 2019 at 10:29pm
If you want to keep animals away from an area,..
 pour some ammonia.
 Doesn't kill the plants, actually helps them grow, but it keeps animals away.
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