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tonyk 
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Posted: 31 Aug 2018 at 12:12pm |
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Water drained from the carburetor into the engine block and I drained it, but engine is locked. tried pulling tractor slowly with my truck and shifting into gear, but it would not engage. Any ideas?
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Jim Hancock
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Posted: 31 Aug 2018 at 12:50pm |
Hi Tony. Welcome to the forum. Pull the plugs and squirt transmission fluid in there and let it sit a day or two. Put it in 3rd or 4th gear and engage the hand clutch. Every time you go by the tractor, rock it by turning the rear wheel and watch for the fan blades to turn. When they do, it'll be free. Change the oil and filter when you're about ready to fire it up. HTH.
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Posted: 31 Aug 2018 at 1:27pm |
Yep, that's the way to do it. If iy was recently free it could only take a few days. If it's been a while, then a couple of weeks of this may be necessary.
Slow and steady wins the race. I wouldn't be pull starting it just yet.
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Gerald J.
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Posted: 31 Aug 2018 at 9:43pm |
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Forcing a stuck engine to turn by pulling it or shoving a rear tire can cause serious damage by bending the connecting rods that are trying to push a piston up. The bent rod adds friction to the piston and the connecting rod bearing and is weakened and with the engine running can break and the remains of the piston rod often poke a hole in the side of the block or the oil pan.
Its much better to take the head off and add rust solvents and to drop the crank shaft and pull down on the connecting rods or pull the piston stuck to the sleeve and press the piston down with hydraulic press or hammer and block of wood.
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Posted: 31 Aug 2018 at 9:47pm |
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I don't under stand. (Water drained from carburetor into the engine lock). MACK
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Posted: 31 Aug 2018 at 9:50pm |
I always use a 50/50 mix of acetone/transmission fluid. The acetone really eats the rust, but it also evaporates quickly, s I put the plugs back in finger tight. As said above, unless you have a different problem, it should free up easily.
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Posted: 31 Aug 2018 at 10:29pm |
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may just be a stuck valve and if it does turn over by rocking it you will have bent a push rod so at least pull the valve cover and push all the valves there isnt that much spring preassure all the intakes that were closed are probley stuck , did air cleaner get filled with water?
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Posted: 01 Sep 2018 at 9:18am |
 MACK wrote:
I don't under stand. (Water drained from carburetor into the engine lock). MACK |
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Posted: 01 Sep 2018 at 9:19am |
Gerald J. wrote:
Forcing a stuck engine to turn by pulling it or shoving a rear tire can cause serious damage by bending the connecting rods that are trying to push a piston up. The bent rod adds friction to the piston and the connecting rod bearing and is weakened and with the engine running can break and the remains of the piston rod often poke a hole in the side of the block or the oil pan.
Its much better to take the head off and add rust solvents and to drop the crank shaft and pull down on the connecting rods or pull the piston stuck to the sleeve and press the piston down with hydraulic press or hammer and block of wood.
Gerald J.
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I agree with this 100%. Never pull a tractor in an attempt to free up a stuck engine.
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Posted: 01 Sep 2018 at 9:43am |
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Kind of hard to drain water from the carb into the engine when it is a up draft carb
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CTuckerNWIL
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Posted: 01 Sep 2018 at 6:37pm |
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Water gets in the engine from around the muffler. It can run down the outside of the muffler and seep right into the manifold. It can't leak into the engine from the carb.
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Posted: 01 Sep 2018 at 6:39pm |
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I suppose it could come in through the breather, too, if the cap is off and it sits long enough.
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Posted: 01 Sep 2018 at 6:50pm |
WF owner wrote:
I suppose it could come in through the breather, too, if the cap is off and it sits long enough. |
It can get in the air cleaner if the cap is off, but it CAN'T get into the engine from there without cranking the engine over and sucking it in..
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Posted: 01 Sep 2018 at 6:59pm |
CTuckerNWIL wrote:
WF owner wrote:
I suppose it could come in through the breather, too, if the cap is off and it sits long enough. |
It can get in the air cleaner if the cap is off, but it CAN'T get into the engine from there without cranking the engine over and sucking it in.. |
If it fills up the air cleaner, the manifold and carb would be full too. I don't see why it couldn't run in to the engine the same way it does through the exhaust, through an open valve.
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Posted: 01 Sep 2018 at 11:19pm |
DSeries4 wrote:
Gerald J. wrote:
Forcing a stuck engine to turn by pulling it or shoving a rear tire can cause serious damage by bending the connecting rods that are trying to push a piston up. The bent rod adds friction to the piston and the connecting rod bearing and is weakened and with the engine running can break and the remains of the piston rod often poke a hole in the side of the block or the oil pan.
Its much better to take the head off and add rust solvents and to drop the crank shaft and pull down on the connecting rods or pull the piston stuck to the sleeve and press the piston down with hydraulic press or hammer and block of wood.
Gerald J.
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I agree with this 100%. Never pull a tractor in an attempt to free up a stuck engine.
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Trust me from seeing it done with a DD15. For a gasoline engine pull the plugs and use a pump to get the water off the top of the Pistons. Same with a diesel just pull injectors instead of plugs. The one I seen did start when it was pulled but it has a nice clunking noise due to some bent rods.
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