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JohnCO 
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Posted: 10 Nov 2017 at 12:07pm |
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Was watching Kurtz auction in Littlestown, Pa this morning. They had a Allis D270 gas with a mid mounted cycle bar mower listed. Until I saw it, I wasn't aware they made any of the English tractors with gas engines. I assume it's a 225 cu in. Will be making the trip to Colorado soon, I hope. I'd bought a JCB wheel loader on Ebay from them a couple weeks ago and fortunately they hadn't found a truck heading this far west yet so both machines will make the trip.
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Bill Long
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Posted: 10 Nov 2017 at 1:41pm |
John, Congratulations!! I am certain that it was an appealing item or you would not have bought it. Frankly, I have no knowledge of this unit and can supply no input as to your purchase. Can we see some pictures. Best of luck with your new find. Good Luck! Bill Long ps: John, After making this post I went to tractor data to obtain information. Frankly, it has the appearence of a Wide front CA. Power about 27, engine size 125.1 cu in. Would love to see a picture of the tractor with the mower mounted. Could be similar to a #5 mower which was a CA mounted mower that looked like the B-C mower.
Edited by Bill Long - 10 Nov 2017 at 1:47pm
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Posted: 10 Nov 2017 at 2:20pm |
Now John, you know we can't read without pictures or (preferably) videos 
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Posted: 10 Nov 2017 at 3:13pm |
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Congrats John! Post up some pics of this beast.
Steve
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1940 B "Lucy"
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1942 B w/ finish mower "Dick"
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Posted: 10 Nov 2017 at 3:14pm |
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Bill Deppe/AC Salvag
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Posted: 10 Nov 2017 at 5:34pm |
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They are unique, I have two of them imported from NZ. They have the features of a B, C and CA combined. Could have sold one to you and had half the distance
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JohnCO
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Posted: 10 Nov 2017 at 7:07pm |
Well Bill, If I'd known you had one and if I'd known I was gonna see one at an auction 1,650 miles away and if I'd known my bid would win, I would have been interested in yours. Oh Well... I meant 125 Cu. in. fat fingers! Yeah Gary, that's the one, a fram tractor! https://www.proxibid.com/asp/LotDetail.asp?lid=39219830
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Posted: 10 Nov 2017 at 10:36pm |
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cool John! if the truck can't make it all the way to CO, you can store them both here!
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Posted: 10 Nov 2017 at 10:52pm |
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Looks like a beast, just right for you John. Now, 1650 miles?!?!?!? When's the last time you had a shrink look at you??
Yeah, if'n you had gotten one from Bill, I'd a met you down there!! I gotta go see him about a few things...
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Posted: 10 Nov 2017 at 11:35pm |
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John, The Tractor Data sheet that Gary posted above also lists a kerosene version for the D 272. Looking at the picture of the tractor that you posted it looks like it has the small fuel tank for starting on gas then switching to kerosene. You may have something more rare than you realized! Let us know when you get it out there and can tell us more about it.
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Posted: 11 Nov 2017 at 6:19am |
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That's a cool looking tractor! I think the road trip only adds to the enjoyment of getting it. Embrace it. Enjoy it!
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1940 B "Lucy"
1941 B w/ Woods L59 "Flavia"
1942 B w/ finish mower "Dick"
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Posted: 11 Nov 2017 at 9:25pm |
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Thanks for the positive words everyone! I've already paid to have the JCB hauled out here so I hope getting the little Allis on the truck won't cost me too much more. Back in the old days when the DOT's were less intense, I probably would have jumped in my 6V71 powered Chevy 70 and headed east. Now I leave the driving to the smiling cat on TV, was that Sunny Pruit? I plan on talking to the seller to see if he has any knowledge of the tractor or knows who is the previous owner. Guess I'll get the SN when it gets here, maybe in the next couple weeks?
In looking at the pictures more closely, it does look like there is a separate tank under the hood, can't see the carb or manifold to get a better idea if it is a karo engine. I see it still has the "number plate" (license plate) bracket on the back. The big question I have is why is there a striker on the front tire? Does it run on acetylene? LOL
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Posted: 11 Nov 2017 at 9:44pm |
That mower might be one of a kind!
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JohnCO
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Posted: 12 Nov 2017 at 1:59am |
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I saw one cutting hay with a mower just like the one on this tractor, so I guess they aren't that rare in England or Europe. I'd never heard of them before I saw this on on the sale bill. Looking at the tractor data, it really sounds like the perfect tractor, 4 speed, snap coupler, 12 volt system, live power. It could have a lever like a CA for the live power but even that is a whole lot better then a B or C. In any event, I may be the only D270 in Colorado, even more rare then my RC.
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Posted: 12 Nov 2017 at 5:17am |
 JohnCO wrote:
Thanks for the positive words everyone! I've already paid to have the JCB hauled out here so I hope getting the little Allis on the truck won't cost me too much more. Back in the old days when the DOT's were less intense, I probably would have jumped in my 6V71 powered Chevy 70 and headed east. Now I leave the driving to the smiling cat on TV, was that Sunny Pruit? I plan on talking to the seller to see if he has any knowledge of the tractor or knows who is the previous owner. Guess I'll get the SN when it gets here, maybe in the next couple weeks?
In looking at the pictures more closely, it does look like there is a separate tank under the hood, can't see the carb or manifold to get a better idea if it is a karo engine. I see it still has the "number plate" (license plate) bracket on the back. The big question I have is why is there a striker on the front tire? Does it run on acetylene? LOL
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Ain't that stryker an option for cold weather starts???????????
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