Won one; lost one

Had a little time to work on the forty five road grader yesterday, so we took advantage of it. We need it to get the hay area shaped up for hauling hay in. The worm gear shaft for the circle gearbox had bearings out, and the shaft was messed up at last report. Had a new shaft made, and got new bearings, races and seal lined up and ready to go. All went together with less trouble than I'm used to experiencing. Should have been a red flag! LOL! Then the next red flag, the thing turned over about 3 times and fired right up. Hasn't been started in at least six months. This is getting to good to be true. Then the tide turned. The knuckle buster lever for the circle only worked in the forward position, turning the circle clock-wise. Pulling the lever back to turn the circle counter- clockwise only resulted in a little mild chattering, but wouldn't turn the shaft. My plans are, when I get back to this project, are to pull that segment off the knuckle buster box off. What am I going to find there? Do I have to take the whole box apart, or is the problem going to be in the part that come off of the top? My back-up plan, if the gearbox fix is in-feasible, is to put an orbit motor onto the in-put shaft of the circle gear box, and run it off the auxiliary hydraulic pump with a two way valve in the cab. Any thougths...? Insight...? Anything for the good of the order....? Thanks, Darrel

Darrel

Jensales copy of AC-S-45MG page 97 "3.  Power Control Box"

Says you can swap the dog clutch gears front to back and get new wear surfaces so if yours haven't already been swapped you can get another life.  I guess you turn the selector sleeve over too.

I haven't been in here but I guess you take the back off the housing and that control tower off and then things should come out.  And I could be wrong.

If you were to go hydraulic motor I'd be interested in what you use.  Ours has the wheel lean now done with a cylinder which walks a bit.  So I've thought of using a motor on the lean gearbox (which I'd have to scrounge as ours is gone).

shameless dude wrote: Darrel...just run it one way, take a breather or a swig all while it goes all the way around to where you want it again! lol

Uhhhhhh, The front wheels get in the way........ Darrel

shameless dude wrote: what...no blue tool?

Sometimes I have to wonder if your elevator goes all of the way to the top! LOL! Darrel

darrel in ND wrote: shameless dude wrote: Darrel...just run it one way, take a breather or a swig all while it goes all the way around to where you want it again! lol Uhhhhhh, The front wheels get in the way........ Darrel

Have you got the bolt on moulboard extensions then? 

They did have hydraulic side shift as an option.  It would be handy on ours but that hydraulic circuit has been farmrerised for blade roll.

CAL(KS) wrote: fork and cogs may be worn inside the box.  on my 145 had the same trouble.  switched it out with the unused fork/lever and shimmed in the problem gear.  problem fixed.

Forgive my ignorance here Cal, but is that all do-able without taking apart the entire gearbox. I'm completely unfamiliar with what goes on inside that animal. Thanks, Darrel

Cal

As noted above you can reverse the 17-18-17 assembly and get new wear surfaces - if it hasn't already been done

Thanks so much for the information, guys. I have a lot to go on now. I know that I am not going to have time to get back to this project again for a while now. But I'll let y'all know how it goes when I do get to it. Darrel

shameless dude wrote: now what are you moving on to? prolly gonna clean on the Quonset?

I've got 13 miles of interstate road ditch to hay. Have 100 acres of oats that we Hayed once already (only made half bale per acre) and it came back. Going to hay that again. Will have about 30 acres of silage corn to chop right at about first frost time. Then will have some buckwheat to swath and combine. And then some sunflowers to combine. After that, get ready for that pretty stuff that you love to send out all over the country. Darrel

Yes, I agree with JC

if'n I takes "the machine" up to Darrel's place, all that wide open country where the wind really likes to blow, it should scatter all that pretty a LONG ways, prolly farther than just from my place!

NOW YOU KNOW OLE SHAMELESS AIN'T going to help poor Darrel, he just likes to torment him

Then he likes to pock ya with his sharp stick too