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    Posted: 09 Mar 2017 at 11:57am
Does aany one know if the wd45 was ever made without a pto i have one that does not have a pto shaft coming out the back
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Yes, they were available without. Are you sure you are missing just the PTO shaft??? or is the PTO drop box is still down underneath the battery ???
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what does that look like
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The PTO shaft extends from the rear of the tractor to the underside of the transmission. About three feet long or so. There will be a drop box which is just a housing that hangs below which houses a couple of gears and short shaft that comes out the back side of the drop box. That short shaft connects to the long PTO shaft with a shear pin to protect the driveline.
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Can all that be added if it is missing
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It is possible that a previous owner ripped the guts out of the PTO and blanked it off with a cover at the casting and then sold the tractor.  You would not be the first.  Unbolt the cover that is in place and look up and see what is there.  Take pics if you can.

http://forums.yesterdaystractors.com/viewtopic.php?t=984847&highlight=pto



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Originally posted by Stan IL&TN Stan IL&TN wrote:

That short shaft connects to the long PTO shaft with a shear pin to protect the driveline.


That is supposed to be a shoulder bolt and was never intended to be a shear point. ANY tool ran of the PTO should have a slip clutch or a shear pin in it to prevent damage.
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does any one have a number i could text some pics to to show what my tractor has for pto parts
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do you have a number i could text u pics of tractor so u can tell me what i missing
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Do u have a number i could text u pics of my tractor to see what im missing heres mine 417 260 1033
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To see parts explosions, go to this site:

http://www.agcopartsbooks.com/PartsBooksN/login.aspx?region=NorthAmerica

Under Guest User, View Books.

Under Search by Model, enter WD45

Under All Brands, pull down AGCO Allis

Under WD....., scroll down to Drive Train - Power Take-Off and the parts are all pictured

Go to this site:

http://www.grandpastractor.com/forum/allis-chalmers-tractors.html

And down load Operators, Service and Parts Manuals

Also check your e-mail.
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Ok thanks
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Originally posted by CTuckerNWIL CTuckerNWIL wrote:


Originally posted by Stan IL&TN Stan IL&TN wrote:

That short shaft connects to the long PTO shaft with a shear pin to protect the driveline.


That is supposed to be a shoulder bolt and was never intended to be a shear point. ANY tool ran of the PTO should have a slip clutch or a shear pin in it to prevent damage.

Thanks for catching my mistake Charlie. I must have been daydreaming of the other end of that shaft. Mine also has the shoulder bolt where it's supposed to be.
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Bob4430, the pics that you sent don't show any of the external PTO parts being there.  However, the right side view of the steering column support shows the loop that would support the actuator rod for PTO.  There is still a good chance that the tractor originally had PTO and it has been removed.
You need to drain fluids and look inside to see what is there.  Then, you can see what you need, maybe with the help of others on this forum.
Here are a couple of more old threads that will help you appreciate why you need to look inside.

http://forums.yesterdaystractors.com/viewtopic.php?t=1011717

http://www.allischalmers.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=70201

http://www.allischalmers.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=93382&title=wd45-hydraulic-tank-same-as-wet-clutch

http://www.allischalmers.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=120328&title=how-to-or-not-to-split-wd45-replace-seals
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Here is something quick to look at.  Go to the online AGCO parts listing for WD/WD45 and go down to:

Drive Train - Torque Housing, Transmission Clutch

Item #16 is the Covering for the PTO Opening.  If yours is original, it will likely have a drain plug installed.  If no drain plug, then it is likely farmer installed and you will have to look inside to see what is left.
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In order to use the mounted plow you needed to remove the PTO shaft.
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Originally posted by Ted in NE-OH Ted in NE-OH wrote:

In order to use the mounted plow you needed to remove the PTO shaft.

on a pin hitch but not a snap coupler(like a 45 had)
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