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Posted: 26 Jan 2017 at 6:36pm |
Hello, I have been looking at buying my "old" compact tractor back, my father sold it in late 2014. but then I regretted it, I found it online and only 20 minutes from me, last time I had it the engine knocked but still ran, Is there ANY!!! website online that offers a COMPETE engine rebuild kit or even just Crank Bearings! here is a photo of it, i repainted it myself. 
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Dnoym N. S. Can.
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Posted: 26 Jan 2017 at 6:54pm |
fyi
Allis-Chalmers 5015 18 hp (13 kW) Yanmar same as Hinomoto C174 ...
For further information, see Hitachi Tierra.
Tractor Models built by Hinomoto for other companies
Model Year(s) Produced Horsepower Engine Type Misc Notes Photo
Allis-Chalmers 5015 18 hp (13 kW) Yanmar same as Hinomoto C174
and Simplicity 9518 Simplicity 9518 18 hp (13 kW) same as Allis-Chalmers 5015 http://gardentractortalk.com/forums/topic/37081-a-little-on-the-hinomoto/ HTH B:-) Dnoym
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Posted: 26 Jan 2017 at 7:43pm |
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No parts supply for those Hinomoto except for a dealer having some NOS as far as I can
find out.I bought a Massey Ferguson 220-4(basically the same as the AC 5030) cheap because
the owner couldn't find front end parts.I put a 2WD front off a parts AC 5020 I have on it.Pretty good tractor but if it breaks.........
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Posted: 26 Jan 2017 at 7:51pm |
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Yes I knew it was based off a Japan Tractor, so only NOS and used parts? where can i find them. I know someone bought out Hinomoto can't remember who though.
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Posted: 26 Jan 2017 at 7:54pm |
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Id start it up and see how long the engine knocks, give it some fuel and see if it quits, Ive got one just like it and knocks like a bitch at first start but clears up,
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Bill Deppe/AC Salvag
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Posted: 26 Jan 2017 at 7:57pm |
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How much difference between a 5015 engine and a 5020? Have one for salvage. It's 2wd and no sheet metal
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Posted: 26 Jan 2017 at 8:15pm |
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Alot Bill, the 5020 is 25 hp while 5015 is 18. different size and stroke/bore motors.
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Posted: 26 Jan 2017 at 8:17pm |
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Well i don't own it at the moment, i am trying to buy it back from a guy that is "Parting" it out. No wonder why there so rare. i think he said the engine is stuck.....
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Posted: 26 Jan 2017 at 8:28pm |
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I think I might have a 5015 shop manual in an A-C binder. Let me know if you might be interested and I'll look for it. Thanks.
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Posted: 27 Jan 2017 at 12:46am |
 Bill Deppe/AC Salvag wrote:
How much difference between a 5015 engine and a 5020? Have one for salvage. It's 2wd and no sheet metal |
From what I've found out the 5020 and 5030 engines are the ones that are very similar and will interchange.
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Posted: 27 Jan 2017 at 12:53am |
ACwd15 wrote:
Yes I knew it was based off a Japan Tractor, so only NOS and used parts? where can i find them. I know someone bought out Hinomoto can't remember who though. |
I know as far back as around 2002 Bud Yingling had a 5020 in his shop and he had to order a piston for it from Japan.The story I heard was the factory in Japan was destroyed when they had that giant Tidal Wave back about 10 or so years ago or maybe they just quit making any parts.It happens I have a Bolens that was built by Iseki and sold by Garden Way in the US and the parts situation is the same for that too.
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Posted: 27 Jan 2017 at 2:21am |
Yes,i have the same problem i own a 77 Montgomery wards very hard to find parts for. and a 79 A-body Pontiac car! (Grand LeMans) both very hard to find parts for. 
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Posted: 28 Jan 2017 at 12:46am |
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Is $1200 fair for the tractor? i don't think it is considering parts are so scarce and well its just about the money
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Posted: 28 Jan 2017 at 8:10am |
here's one for sale $1600
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Posted: 28 Jan 2017 at 4:54pm |
Acdiesel wrote:
here's one for sale $1600
Thanks i'll have a look into it. |
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Posted: 29 Jan 2017 at 5:22pm |
So the guy won't let it go for under 1200, what a ripoff. to get it running again would take Thousands.
Guess I'll stick with the older stuff what im good at. Guys like him are Tight Sticks.  |
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Posted: 29 Jan 2017 at 6:52pm |
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Maybe I should sell you mine. Worked on it today. Missing the grille and side shield bolts. I have a thousand bolts but no metric, I was hoping the bolt size would be in the service manuel but no luck. Looked for parts on the internet but could not find a site that would give me any information. O well, the good news is I got the snow blower to work.
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Posted: 30 Jan 2017 at 5:10am |
Massey Ferguson also sold the same tractor for a good number of years (10). If I remember right it was the 1010 model. Maybe the 1020 was also similar
The Hinomoto C142 (same as the 5015) was also imported as a grey market tractor. You could probably find these overseas much easier if you find someone that can navigate the Japanese sites
Try http://www.stevenstractor.com/
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Posted: 30 Jan 2017 at 5:20am |
maybe contact this company and see what you can find http://www.hinomoto.co.za/ They sell in South Africa
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Posted: 30 Jan 2017 at 5:25am |
And lastly: http://www.japanesetractorparts.com
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Posted: 30 Jan 2017 at 6:09am |
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My operator book says the engine is a Toyosha. Was there an engine choice?
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Posted: 30 Jan 2017 at 7:27am |
Lon(MN) wrote:
My operator book says the engine is a Toyosha. Was there an engine choice? |
All had the same brand engine and if anyone can find a parts supplier for those motors/tractors they can make a fortune.A lot of people still paying big $$$$ for those tractors that'll find out they have expensive boat anchors if they break down and need a part of any importance.
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Posted: 30 Jan 2017 at 7:49am |
Gary Burnett wrote:
Lon(MN) wrote:
My operator book says the engine is a Toyosha. Was there an engine choice? |
All had the same brand engine and if anyone can find a parts supplier for those motors/tractors they can make a fortune.A lot of people still paying big $$$$ for those tractors that'll find out they have expensive boat anchors if they break down and need a part of any importance.
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Exactly, tons of money and years to find parts for that motor unless you can find a right engine to swap and make work with the transmission. Anyhow i passed on it. i think im ready to get back farming with the old stuff. I always wanted a Allis Chalmers Wd with the snap coupler plow and a trip loader
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Posted: 30 Jan 2017 at 8:47am |
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I'll buy tractors like that but they have to be cheap and running and I'll use them until something happens then use it for parts.I use mostly Fiats,AC and Olivers to farm with can still get most any parts I need for them.
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Posted: 03 Feb 2017 at 2:19am |
Gary Burnett wrote:
I'll buy tractors like that but they have to be cheap and running and I'll use them until something happens then use it for parts.I use mostly Fiats,AC and Olivers to farm with can still get most any parts I need for them.
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Too late the guy told me he already salvaged it down, just selling parts now. It wasn't running engine was stuck, and parts are nearly impossible to find.
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