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ctbowles58 
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 Topic: WD45 NF TO WF ?
Posted: 15 Feb 2012 at 9:07pm |
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What all do you need to put a wide front-end on a NF tractor i am thinking about putting a wide front on my WD45 loader tractor. do you have to change the big cast iron block on the tractor? thanks tom
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MNLonnie
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Posted: 15 Feb 2012 at 9:22pm |
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I think it depends on the narrow front that you have. In most cases the whole front casting would need to be swapped out. There was a narrow front conversion that allowed you to swap back and forth but i believe that was only on a tractor that came factory with a wide front.
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acwdwcman
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Posted: 15 Feb 2012 at 9:40pm |
the big block will have to be changed.
do you already have the wf end or are you going to buy one?
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Leonard
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Posted: 15 Feb 2012 at 9:44pm |
Not to hard to change from narrow front to wide front. 4 bolts each side of the front casting and the 2 bolts for the steering in the back of the casting. When installing just have to add the 2 bolts through the front engine support angle. May want to unbolt the steering support on the right hand frame rail also as this makes it a little easier to put the steering back in. Also loosen up the bolts down each frame rail to let the front casting slide in easier. Just remember to support the tractor under the clutch housing just behind the oil pan.
BTDT last winter changed the front of my WD from narrow to wide front.
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ctbowles58
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Posted: 15 Feb 2012 at 9:47pm |
 acwdwcman wrote:
the big block will have to be changed.
do you already have the wf end or are you going to buy one?
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i dont have one yet i may try to find a newer tractor with loader ie.170--175 if it cost to much to change over. thanks tom
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Posted: 16 Feb 2012 at 12:15pm |
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You need to remove the lt. radiator attaching bolt, the lt. bolt for the fwd engine support angle, loosen all the bolts down the lt. frame rail including the 2 attaching the frame rail to the rear end housing. Support the front of the tractor using the rt. frame rail and chock the rear wheels real good. Disconnect the steering shaft at the u-joint near the distributor and remove the bolts for the support for the forward section of the steering shaft. A little pry bar action between the rt frame rail and the old gear box will get things moving. On reassembly it is important that the tapered/wedge shaped washers are in place correctly for the radiator support bolt and the engine front support angle. Also the support angle is shimmed to the engine block and should be checked: clearance plus .010". I have said to loosen the lt. frame rail because loosening the rt rail will give you a big oil spill from the hydraulic compartment; don't ask how I know this. If I missed anything the other guys will surf in.
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j.w.freck
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Posted: 16 Feb 2012 at 7:31pm |
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you are right david,also i would get a tap and clean out the threads in the turntable.sure does make it easier getting your steering arm attatched to the turntable...and use the proper length bnolts to attatch thr arm...dont forget to remove at least 1 bolt for the radiator and nose cowl mount...
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Wayne(IA)
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Posted: 17 Feb 2012 at 9:14am |
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Just an FYI. The actual cost of switching to a wide front may be significantly higher if the front end is worn at all. I am in the process of rebuilding a front end and it is going to include a decent amount of work and extra cash to make it tight again. I enjoy projects so I don't mind the extra labor that I'm putting into it but, I have surprised myself with how quickly the $ is adding up. Just something to think about.
Wayne
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