Cutting wheat with an Allcrop

I know it's a long way off, but I thought it might be a good subject for a cold winter night. We will be cutting wheat for the first time this summer and have a couple basic questions and would like to hear your comments. First if you're going to bale the straw do you cut the wheat just under the head and then run a mower after the combine? Will a 72 and a 90 handle the whole plant and still be able to thresh the wheat clean and not be overloaded? From Utube it looks like most people run with the discharge chute folded up in wheat.Second how do you open the field? I don't remember much about pull type combines, I've always run self propelled machines. I used the 72 to harvest some replant sobeans, but they were ponds here and there and I could work around them. I know we have to put straw on standing crop the first through.

I believe my father opened our rectangle shaped fields by going around the outside of the field the opposite direction that he would do the rest of the field. Yes you run over a little that first round but it's no big thing. He turned the straw walker up out of the way like ryan said. We baled all our straw and I saw him do it several ways.Sometimes he clipped off the tops and then mowed and raked before baling,other times he cut just above the ground and ran it all through and would bale right behind the combine without raking. I guess he did what the weather allowed him to do.Being dairy farmers the straw was more valuable than the wheat.I am sure the 72 we had did an excellent job of cleaning the wheat even when running all of the crop through.There should be seperate screens for different crops.Also different settings for fan speeds. Manuals should tell what is needed for each crop.

Ryan has the right idea .. plus you get the chaff..makes for nicer bedding ....

we always had clover growing and cut at the top of it then baled the windrow. sometimes the clover got too tall and had to run some of it through as well.That was good for a slug or two.

When I tried taking the whole straw I got clogged up...maybe I needed to go slower...

Dave, to your screen question... I think they all need a screen for wheat.  We have one wheat screen for the 60 & 66 for sale, but someone will have to tell you if they also fit the 72.  The 90 uses a larger screen for sure.

The 60, 66 & 72 have the same size screens.

dave. my family bought their first combine in 1959, a used all crop 66, canvas feed, pto drive. fantastic machine. in ohio, most fall drilled wheat was companion planted with grass seed like clover,rye grass and alfalfa. the old gezzers would wait till february of the next year to broadcast the grass seed, with a hand broad caster, if their old grain drill didnt have a grass seeder attachment. the wheat was then ready to thrash the 3rd and 4th weeks of june. we pulled the combine on flat, rolling and hillside grounds with a d14 in 2nd gear high range, sometimes low range if the thistle patch was heavy. by now the grass growth was 4 to 5 inches high so we cut just above it. we always ran  discharge hood down, raked the straw once and baled. in oates, we cut just above the rag weed with discharge hood down and broadcaster in place to rid the straw of itchy dust, hulls and arrant rag weeds. the only time the 66 would choke would have been in a bad weed, thistle infestation within the harvested crop or the harvest crop was above 13% moisture. you could feel the ohio humidity coming back into the straw around 6:30 in the afternoon so you went to the barn until 12:30 or so the next day and repeat.

Robert Mull Georgia wrote: In the early 60's my Grand father had a 60 with only the two sacker platform (no grain Bin). I rode and tied the sacks. We always had the straw hood up and the grain sack slide up on the first round so that the bushes around the edge of the field would not tear them off. I got slapped quite often in the face and arms on those first rounds. On the second round the Grain Sack Slide and straw hood were lowered into place. The straw hood kept a lot of the dust off of me. It was a must when combining oats. Oats are itchy.

I had exactly the same experiences, except I was in the Northern Tier of PA, and it was the late 1970's...

   Kelly, that is a beautiful 40 ! Is she all original ?

Edited by Rfdeere - 08 Feb 2012 at 10:49pm

I believe  that it is.  JimIa can give the whole story on his 40. Its a great running machine. they drove over and went right to work with it. A former neighbor that passed away just a few months ago came to watch it run, his relative had one and he thought that it might be that one. Watching that day he said it brought back many many ac memories. You may have seen him at some time He won many tractor pulls with his d-21, and went to the nationals with it. Deania rembers when he got the first 7040 in the area and took it to a farmers pull and they almost had to drive into town to stop it, The JD men cried. 

Edited by daughter#1 - 08 Feb 2012 at 11:06pm

daughter#1 wrote: I believe  that it is.  JimIa can give the whole story on his 40. Its a great running machine. they drove over and went right to work with it. A former neighbor that passed away just a few months ago came to watch it run, his relative had one and he thought that it might be that one. Watching that day he said it brought back many many ac memories. You may have seen him at some time He won many tractor pulls with his d-21, and went to the nationals with it. Deania rembers when he got the first 7040 in the area and took it to a farmers pull and they almost had to drive into town to stop it, The JD men cried.

 

So does anyone have a wheat screen for a 90 for sale?

Proangler, I wish I could help, but we sold all of our screens.  Happy 4th of July!