Tractor caravan question and issues

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   We are planning to do a tractor drive here in Lynden WA. at the 2013 GOTO a day before the show. He are heading out the show grounds, and head to Birch Bay which is the edge of the Puget Sound, drive by the waterfront in Blaine and go by the Peach Arch Boder Crossing, and take back roads back to the show. It is a bout a 43 mile round trip and will have lunch by the water.

Anyways, the issues we are having is that I talked to the local Traffic Sargent and he said we had to get a permit for this since it is not a farming issue ,but a parade issue. He said we had to go to the permit dept, get a permit, fill out and then back to the traffic sargent and possibly the Blaine councit, because we are going to be driving through the city. I figure we will have between 30 to 40 plus tractors. The sargent also said we need to hire a off duty officer at $65.00  a hour for traffic congestion.

We had a meeting last night and most of them said just do the drive.. What have you members or folks ran into when you do a tractor drive ? He have to much law stuff we are dealing with to do this. I am going to do this one way or the other and right now look at getting a sponcer for this event for the costs maybe.

Looking for feedback which way to procede.

Thanks in advanced, Darryl Krause
2013 WEST SHOW DIRECTOR

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DarrylinWA Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Amarillo Texas Points: 1900	Post Options Post Reply Quote DarrylinWA Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Tractor caravan question and issues Posted: 15 Jan 2012 at 12:17am
	We are planning to do a tractor drive here in Lynden WA. at the 2013 GOTO a day before the show. He are heading out the show grounds, and head to Birch Bay which is the edge of the Puget Sound, drive by the waterfront in Blaine and go by the Peach Arch Boder Crossing, and take back roads back to the show. It is a bout a 43 mile round trip and will have lunch by the water. Anyways, the issues we are having is that I talked to the local Traffic Sargent and he said we had to get a permit for this since it is not a farming issue ,but a parade issue. He said we had to go to the permit dept, get a permit, fill out and then back to the traffic sargent and possibly the Blaine councit, because we are going to be driving through the city. I figure we will have between 30 to 40 plus tractors. The sargent also said we need to hire a off duty officer at $65.00 a hour for traffic congestion. We had a meeting last night and most of them said just do the drive.. What have you members or folks ran into when you do a tractor drive ? He have to much law stuff we are dealing with to do this. I am going to do this one way or the other and right now look at getting a sponcer for this event for the costs maybe. Looking for feedback which way to procede. Thanks in advanced, Darryl Krause 2013 WEST SHOW DIRECTOR
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Dave H Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Central IL Points: 3583	Post Options Post Reply Quote Dave H Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 15 Jan 2012 at 7:17am
	Man you sure got a bum deal. At our tractor ride last fall (65 pieces of old iron), the county sheriff led the drive and had deputies help us across the major highways.

David Maddux Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Points: 2535	Post Options Post Reply Quote David Maddux Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 15 Jan 2012 at 7:44am
	In Missouri we are required to obtain a permit from the Local State Patrol Office, then we have to check in with any Municipality to see if they request a parade permit. We have never had to hire anyone to work traffic. I have also worked with the local sheriffs office to help coordinate with the State Highway Patrol for escort. I would start over and go to the top, talk to the people at the highway patrol office and see what they say. Dave.

Max(ia) Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 15 Sep 2009 Location: Polk County,Ia Points: 536	Post Options Post Reply Quote Max(ia) Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 15 Jan 2012 at 9:15am
	Don't know about the large rides that have 100s of tractors, but our small ones, 30 or so have never had to have a Permit. The County or City Law Enforcement has always been glad to help through larger towns or crossing major hiways. Of course we're about as Rural as you can get. lol

dave63 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 01 Feb 2011 Location: Lineboro Md Points: 2382	Post Options Post Reply Quote dave63 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 15 Jan 2012 at 2:40pm
	Do you have a Volunteer fire Department with fire police? Maybe you could get them for trafic control. Fire police do traffic control for parades around here.
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Gary in da UP Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: EUP of Mi. Points: 1885	Post Options Post Reply Quote Gary in da UP Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 15 Jan 2012 at 3:27pm
	First of all I don't want to rain on your parade but, Touring over rural / farming country is one thing, but what you have planned will require event insurance, for your own safety as an organizer,and rules for the safety of all involved. It ain't 1950 anymore. The "what ifs" leave you wide open for a bottom feeder with license to practice law in the event of an accident of any sort, even before you leave your grounds, I have seen people hurt loading and unloading let alone dodgeing the impatient, texting , late for work doofus. You will need it or you won't sleep at night. Spread the cost of the event insurance over the particapents and sponsors. I would get the local C of C , radio stations, equipment dealers and others involved to share in the costs and promotion. . Sooner or later , someone will want to see your insurance binder , particapant policy, rules, etc. What you want to do will draw too much attention to fly under the radar. BTW it sounds like fun , wish I could attend, the WC I'm putting together is mainly for that sort of event I have been on the Mackinaw Bridge Tractor Crossing, and helped a very little the first year, it will be a lot of work, but work the angle with the business's that stand to benifit from your ride, They can hold some sway with local authorities. This may grow to be big, so call it the 1st Annual.....Good luck.