Best round bailer for d17 series 1

What would I look for in a round baler( make model and buying used)if one exists running behind d17 series 1 gas?

I don't see that working well on a Series 1. 2 way hydraulics are required to open and close the door unless you get creative.

Edited by Allis dave - 15 Sep 2022 at 11:20am

For a series 1, there is no good round baler!  The series 1 (and 2 and 3) hydraulic system is very antiquated and does not have the capacity to efficiently run a round baler.  IF you want a D17 to run a round baler, you need a Series 4.  It has the modern 2 way high volume hydraulic system that round balers use.

Hunt4Allis wrote: Hmmm, sounds like last 2 posts are opposite from each other ( 1 says d17 will, next says can't unless has 2way hydraulic s?) Can I make my series 1 have 2way?sounds like hp isn't the issue...

Edited by exSW - 15 Sep 2022 at 5:57pm

Hunt4Allis,
Allis-Chalmers Roto-baler would be a given.

But If you’re after a big round baler, then some hydraulic modifications would be necessary/suggested?
With hydraulic mods, the older Vermeer model F, model G, ... might suffice at an moderate pace?? These balers are good simple designs that produce a larger 6’tall x 5’ wide bale. But,... you don’t have to entirely capacitate baler to 6’ tall? Can stop/finish bale at any height(3’,4’,5’...??). Depending on material being baled, bale capacity (weight) could be a factor?? What are you wanting to bale? Straw? Hay? Cornstalks, ....etc??

Even if a Series 1,2 or 3 D-17 had an adequate hydraulic system (which they do not,  IMHO). The brake system lacks the stopping power required for a big round baler.  

Edited by Clay - 15 Sep 2022 at 8:04pm

Ok, you get it plumbed for 2 way hydraulics and get a full bale. The tailgate will raise SUPER SLOW unless you increase Hyd. flow by adding front pump and more reservoir capacity. If you only bale a few bales I guess you could get by if you have plenty of time.

After watching video of plumbing 2 way valve I do have a return to pump line already so I think my d17 would be same principle.
I will look at roto balers option also,thanks!
Anyone have a good 2 way valve they want to part with?

Hunt4Allis wrote: After watching video of plumbing 2 way valve I do have a return to pump line already so I think my d17 would be same principle. I will look at roto balers option also,thanks! Anyone have a good 2 way valve they want to part with?

  My D17 series 2 has an E Gleaner engine and I run a Claas Rollant 62 4x5 baler. 

Edited by BillinAlberta - 16 Sep 2022 at 10:32am

I would make at most 20 round bales per year(mostly orchard Grass, Timothy, and clover mixs)honestly if a wd45 will run a new idea 483 like he shows in video after installing 2way valve in other video( both links from post today from jvin 248)I don't see why my d17 would not handle it(of course I'm not trying to set any speed records, I use a 7 ft Allis Chalmers sickle mower.) I currently cut with that and rake with an old steel wheeled international harvester rake. I only pay to have bales made so I'm thinking of what I could get to not have to rely on someone else and pay them, with using what I have in tractors... Only a couple cows and small hobby farm here...

Edited by Hunt4Allis - 16 Sep 2022 at 11:35am

Any older D-17 needs the additional valves to the left of the seat so you can operate the hand clutch and hydraulic levers at the same time.

Locate and mount your 2-way valve to the left of the seat where is is easy for you to reach. The "IN" port on the 2-way valve needs a hose connected to it that will reach around to plug into the remote outlet on the tractor that already exists. When you want 2-way hydraulics, plug the hose into your remote outlet and raise the LIFT/LOWER lever to the top window and lock it to stay up. You will now have 2-way hydraulics set at 2,000 psi.  When you disconnect the hose, your tractor will then be like it was before, single acting and 3,700 psi. The "OUT" port on the 2-way valve needs to return to the hydraulic sump. If you have an existing return line, you may be able to graft in a tee at one end or the other.

M&W 4500 has electric tie

The kind of 2-way valve you should be using for this application has its own relief valve built into it. The pressure setting should be 2,000 to 2,200 psi.