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farmboy520 
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Posted: 24 Aug 2020 at 8:08am |
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Has anyone drove the newer Agco's that have the cvt transmissions? I was wondering what you guys thought of them
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Posted: 24 Aug 2020 at 2:59pm |
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We have a RT155A that we use on the 23 row planter and 90ft boom sprayer and have had no problems with the transmission, really a great tractor to drive.
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Posted: 24 Aug 2020 at 3:37pm |
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We have a RT150 with the cvt. Great transmission. We plant and make hay with it, I'd love to have another one.
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Posted: 24 Aug 2020 at 4:31pm |
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Last I knew, AGCO had the only clutch-less CVT. They also had the first and best. Heard it’s a 20,000 hour transmission. We had an AGCO RT120a when I worked for the university. It was easily the smoothest CVT, and we had all three major brands.
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Posted: 24 Aug 2020 at 8:52pm |
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Once you have one, you won't want anything else.
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Posted: 24 Aug 2020 at 9:34pm |
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We bought a massey two years ago.(wanted an orange one) Its awsome on the planter. You can set the rpm of the engine. As it needs more power to maintain its speed it will rev up and vice versa when going down hill.
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Posted: 25 Aug 2020 at 1:42am |
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I have a DT180A and love the CVT. Nice in high speed to go down the road at 1500 rpm and 26 mph. I like the ability to have the preset speeds for field work and planting too.
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farmboy520
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Posted: 25 Aug 2020 at 6:52am |
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Thanks for all of your responses. My brother and I are looking to get a DT240A with a cvt and I was wondering about the experiences you've had. How different is it to drive than say a powershift transmission tractor or a regular gear drive tractor?
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On the farm: Agco Allis 9695, 7060, 7010, R66, Farmall H, and Farmall F20 (Great Grandpa's)
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Posted: 25 Aug 2020 at 7:20am |
Man. . . lots more rich guys on here than I thought there was! 
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Posted: 25 Aug 2020 at 7:24am |
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we have an RT100A with the cvt and loader its our chore tractor / hay mover. Best thing about cvt is pedal mode. once you use one on a loader you will hate everything else
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Posted: 25 Aug 2020 at 8:15am |
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I watched a video of a Deere guy talking about Deere's version of the CVT and he said you get far fewer hours off their transmission vs their standard Power Shift, something like half the hours. AGCO's must be pretty good to call it a 20,000 hour transmission.
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Posted: 25 Aug 2020 at 2:54pm |
 farmboy520 wrote:
Thanks for all of your responses. My brother and I are looking to get a DT240A with a cvt and I was wondering about the experiences you've had. How different is it to drive than say a powershift transmission tractor or a regular gear drive tractor? |
Farm boy, I’ve got a Dt240a with around 7000 hrs on it, put all but the first 400 on myself. It’s the primary tillage, planting, drilling tractor. Driving it is simple as can be. As noted above the Agco cvt is in a league of its own and it really shines on a loader or hay work or for that matter anytime start stop back forth or working in a small area is required. Dealer has sold tons and the only one replaced was do to pulling tractor with engine off(out of fuel do to hole in tank). If u have a list of questions I could maybe answer them. If I get time I could make a list of the good bad ugly for you of my tractor.
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Posted: 25 Aug 2020 at 5:26pm |
Fendt invented the CVT in circa 1968, it developed from a stick shift (you can still stick shift most of them in an emergency) today . But have they evloved! There are 3 modes, drive by stick, pedal mode and forager mode. stick mode drives like a powershift, pedal mode drives like an automatic pickup and forager mode uses a static engine rpm and the foot throttle now controls the cvt speed. The CVT can also over drive - as stated above max the engine at only 14oo or so rpm and the tractor still runs full speed 26 to 35 mph depending on front end cofig. Nice - everyone we have out is a love affair... The CVT is also sold to JCB ... due to a patented swing angle no one has or sells a lot of IVT or whatever the competition calls its. No one has the efficiency of the CVT either , not even close. The Fendt technology was a great asset Agco acquired that is spread across many of its brands. Now would that not be nice in a Grain hauling Semi ???? No more clutches or drive shaft snaps....
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Posted: 25 Aug 2020 at 7:06pm |
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Now if they could just make an orange tractor to put it in.
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Posted: 25 Aug 2020 at 8:53pm |
The beauty of the pedal mode is when you let off the pedal it stops and it will set right there, no need for braking. I've loaded trucks with my 545b on hills, terraces, even ditch sides and it is great, no clutch, no brake, just let of the pedal and sit right there. The turbo clutch( I believe they call it) is great also when idol just hit the breaks and stop, no clutch or removing from gear.
Tbran, I believe the patent you speak of is the angle at which the hydraulic pump can run at?
Edited by Kansas99 - 25 Aug 2020 at 8:56pm
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farmboy520
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Posted: 26 Aug 2020 at 10:29am |
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Kansas99 and others thank you for your insight. The purpose of the 240 would be our primary tillage tractor. We use our Agco Allis 9695 fwa now as our primary tillage tractor and looking to get something a little bigger and be more efficient.
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Posted: 26 Aug 2020 at 7:37pm |
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Tbone95, yeah really- someones spending Grandpas money ,, cant do it by theirselves,, lol,
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Posted: 26 Aug 2020 at 8:37pm |
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Grandpa or my dad left me nothing. We own 800 acres 50 tractors and 10 Gleaners old and new debt free.Forty years of hard work and a lot of luck,plus working a off farm job for 32 years. Now I enjoy farming full time!
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Posted: 27 Aug 2020 at 7:36am |
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I'm not rich either. We farm around 600 acres that is almost owned and both my brother and I have full time jobs off the farm. The money we are spending is our own. We've worked hard to get where we are. Our dad did help us while he was alive but we've made all of the equipment purchases from 2006 on.
Edited by farmboy520 - 27 Aug 2020 at 7:36am
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Posted: 27 Aug 2020 at 7:51am |
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Fellers, I was just joking, I'm sorry if I offended.
A CVT tractor is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay out of my league, and that's OK, that's just me. Am I jealous? Well, jealous is an ugly word, maybe "envious" is a little better.
In a touch of seriousness though, I follow the mantra that farming is an "asset rich - cash poor" endeavor. You say your aren't rich. But you own 800 acres in OH or 600 acres in IL. That's what, $3,00,000 ish? 150 hp CVT tractor (various models, various ages, averaging) is what, $75,000 or more? Storage, all your other implements, inventory on hand, a $1M dollar farm isn't hard to get to these days at all. If you had that in your hand, would you be rich?
*edit* I mistakenly left out a 0 in my land price earlier, sorry!
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Posted: 27 Aug 2020 at 10:18am |
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I was trying to not be upset as I know words without the voice behind them can be taken the wrong way. I was trying to give insight into my operation. The one thing I love about this site is that you get to see what everyone's opinions are and what their operations are. A CVT tractor might be out of my league also but going to still try and upgrade if it's in the cards. There was a land sale 2 mile from my house almost a month ago now for 158.8 acres. It sold for $11,500 an acre! I can't afford that.
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Posted: 27 Aug 2020 at 10:55am |
It's cool farmboy, I was just making sure! Also, I just edited my post above, I completely mistakenly left off a 0 and comma on the land value. Makes my point even more so. Good luck on your hunt for a tractor. I wish you well. I would also love to upgrade tractors. Got offered to rent more land in the 2022 crop season. Sigh....the ol' 7045 is my "big" unit. It's good, but MFWD and working A/C would sure be nice if I get serious about this farm thing after all this time! 
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Posted: 27 Aug 2020 at 11:24am |
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I keep my eye out for us to get more land so maybe I could quit my full time fertilizer plant job and farm full time but no luck so far. Good luck Craig with your 7045. They are a good tractor but the newer ones are nicer to extent.
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On the farm: Agco Allis 9695, 7060, 7010, R66, Farmall H, and Farmall F20 (Great Grandpa's)
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Posted: 27 Aug 2020 at 4:11pm |
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No offense taken we were lucky to purchase must of the ground in the late 70s and early 80s when land was a lot cheaper, had to get a job to keep things going during the farm crisis of the 80s. I know starting from nothing today would be a great challenge. With the farms paid for we can spend the money that goes for land payments and cash rent on machinery updates. Farming is not a get rich quick program. I admire every farmer who struggles to make ends meet.
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Posted: 27 Aug 2020 at 7:05pm |
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I'm jealous lol, I'd like to get one some day.
So question, sounds like easy operation. This probably would be the best for someone that can't use legs. I use ether bar stock welded or bolted, set of bumper polls or a pipe wrench on pedals of tractors now. But sounds like you don't need to use much of pedals.
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Posted: 27 Aug 2020 at 8:40pm |
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Sounds like a CVT tractor would be the cat's meow for you Mike
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Posted: 27 Aug 2020 at 8:52pm |
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Mikez, with the CVT like on my DT180A you really don't use the clutch once you get used to it. The shuttle shift is on the left side of the steering wheel for forward/reverse and also has the park switch on it. That lever can also be held up by hand to work like a clutch too and can adjust your speed off that lever or the lever on the right armrest. I do use the brakes to help slow down when traveling down the road, but with a longer slowdown time you can get by without the brakes too. A couple friends have ran the tractor to help with filling silo (I put it on the haybine since that is the only spare tractor I have, and I have the autosteer setup for the hyrdo-swing to make driving easier too for the help). When I have others running the tractor I put the preset engage speed to 0 so when you select forward or reverse the tractor doesn't move until you move one of the levers to advance the tractor speed.
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Posted: 27 Aug 2020 at 9:56pm |
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Have 3 of them. Best thing since canned beer. Efficient and reliable!
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Posted: 28 Aug 2020 at 9:46am |
Lonn wrote:
I watched a video of a Deere guy talking about Deere's version of the CVT and he said you get far fewer hours off their transmission vs their standard Power Shift, something like half the hours. AGCO's must be pretty good to call it a 20,000 hour transmission.
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The AGCO Fendt CVT is the only clutchless CVT/IVT on the market. The Deere and all others use clutch packs.
The AGCO unit also has a seperate oil reservoir for the trans, and one for tractor hydraulics.
JD used a common reservoir, not sure if they wised up and added a trans only fluid tank.
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Posted: 28 Aug 2020 at 11:55am |
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Neighbor just stuck $28000 in his 8530 Deere IVT with 4800 hrs. He is not a guy to abuse equip either.
I spent 25 hours in when it was new. Was hard to get used to it.
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