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David Bradley steering reduction on WD?

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    Posted: 23 Jul 2020 at 5:36pm
Anyone ever hear of or see something like that?

Someone called me asking me if I wanted to buy it along with the tractor it's attached to, a WD. Sounds like it was built as an after market item. No pics yet and I haven't seen it.
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This WD-45 I worked on for my cousin had a steering reduction on it. Didn't see a tag or a label on it, though some people on here pondered if it was made by M&W. Definitely aftermarket but no idea of manufacturer and didn't see any numbers on it. Dropping a picture in here just to see what other people say.


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Thanks for the pic. I'll try to get a pic of the one I'm being offered when I get a look at it.
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What would the purpose of the reduction steering be ?
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Originally posted by Terry/EasternIa Terry/EasternIa wrote:

What would the purpose of the reduction steering be ?


On the tractor I was working on, I believe it was added due to no power steering to aid with driving due to the loader.
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I've always felt that the WD, WD-45 is the hardest steering farm tractor. 
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I grew up (the 50's) on a WD that Dad had put a reduction on.  Different gear and worm.  Maybe bought from TSC??  It needed a spinner knob because the steering wheel took a lot of turns.  We even had a loader on the tractor and it steered great.  Wish I had it on my WD45 now.
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Originally posted by Dusty MI Dusty MI wrote:

I've always felt that the WD, WD-45 is the hardest steering farm tractor. 


You must to have never driven a Case SC.
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Originally posted by Dennis(IA) Dennis(IA) wrote:

I grew up (the 50's) on a WD that Dad had put a reduction on.  Different gear and worm.  Maybe bought from TSC??  It needed a spinner knob because the steering wheel took a lot of turns.  We even had a loader on the tractor and it steered great.  Wish I had it on my WD45 now.
One of my uncles had a couple tractors with those gears. According to my uncle he bought those gear sets at TSC. I thought he said only the worm gear needed changing. After he died his son pulled the gears out to save them but they were stolen along with a bus load of other parts and sold as scrap.
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Changing only the worm would make it a much easier job.  Dad changed it in the barn as far as I remember.  He did go to TSC a lot because I remember going into that store with him.
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Not much easier Wink
I remember many trips with Dad to TSC. Most of our generic farm supplies came from either TSC or Tiegen's Oslo Store.

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Pretty sure the one pictured here is actually a steering wheel relocation gearbox. It is for when you mount a Ford corn picker on a WD or WD45.

Jim

Originally posted by garden_guy garden_guy wrote:

This WD-45 I worked on for my cousin had a steering reduction on it. Didn't see a tag or a label on it, though some people on here pondered if it was made by M&W. Definitely aftermarket but no idea of manufacturer and didn't see any numbers on it. Dropping a picture in here just to see what other people say.


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Originally posted by JimIA JimIA wrote:

Pretty sure the one pictured here is actually a steering wheel relocation gearbox. It is for when you mount a Ford corn picker on a WD or WD45.

Jim


Oh wow I had never heard of that before. Hard to find much info on this stuff anymore.
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Originally posted by garden_guy garden_guy wrote:

Originally posted by JimIA JimIA wrote:

Pretty sure the one pictured here is actually a steering wheel relocation gearbox. It is for when you mount a Ford corn picker on a WD or WD45.

Jim


Oh wow I had never heard of that before. Hard to find much info on this stuff anymore.

Yeah, Im hoping the information is stored on these pages for future reference.  The only reason why I know is a friend gave me one and told me about putting it on each year.  You had to remove the seat and sat on a seat mounted on the husking  bed(no suspension) but it sat centered and higher than the usual seat.  You could run it without it I guess but this made it better.
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Originally posted by JimIA JimIA wrote:

Originally posted by garden_guy garden_guy wrote:

Originally posted by JimIA JimIA wrote:

Pretty sure the one pictured here is actually a steering wheel relocation gearbox. It is for when you mount a Ford corn picker on a WD or WD45.

Jim


Oh wow I had never heard of that before. Hard to find much info on this stuff anymore.

Yeah, Im hoping the information is stored on these pages for future reference.  The only reason why I know is a friend gave me one and told me about putting it on each year.  You had to remove the seat and sat on a seat mounted on the husking  bed(no suspension) but it sat centered and higher than the usual seat.  You could run it without it I guess but this made it better.


If I had more time and talent, I'd try to consolidate pictures and write-ups of some of this info I've learned (or things I've learned how to fix) on a web-page for others to easily reference. There's been a lot of others with incredible threads on here on how to do stuff, too.
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Dad had a Ford picker on a WD45 in the late 1960s which I ran sometimes.  You actually sat on the tractor seat bolted to the belt guard, the belt went under the seat so that the seat was higher, centered, and too close to the steering wheel, no room under for your legs.  So had to use this offset drive for steering!  As I recall, it was not a reduction unit but was 1 to 1, so was not easier to steer, but at least you could sit in the seat!

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After we quit picking in the ear; we use to get calls looking for mounted ford pickers.  The guys claimed they could be slid into 30in rows.   I never saw one in our area.   Were the ford pickers your talking about able to go into 30in rows?   We ran an oliver mounted picker on both the WD and WD45 diesel.   My dad had started out with AC pickers and had nothing good to say about them!
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