Belly pan modifications?

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   About to put the belly pan back onto my HD-6G but before I do I wanted to run some modifications by you guys to see what you thought of them.

1) Weld four loops on the sides of the belly pan that I can use to strap it down to my transmision jack for easier R&R.

2) Weld caps on the inside of the pan over the nuts that secure the engine oil pan access pannel. This will keep dirt, water, out of the threads. Replace the exposed nuts on the bottom with Stainless and thread them into the nut with rtv on the threads to keep dirt and water out of the threads.

3) Im thinking of painting the inside a bright white color so that i can see tools that fall down there and identify the source of leaks faster.

Anyone think those are worth the trouble? Any other ideas? The goal is to hopefully make dealing with that heavy piece easier, and take it off less.

Thanks ahead of time for your ideas and feedback.

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Leop Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Silver Level Joined: 03 Dec 2018 Location: California Points: 161	Post Options Post Reply Quote Leop Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Belly pan modifications? Posted: 03 Nov 2019 at 11:03pm
	About to put the belly pan back onto my HD-6G but before I do I wanted to run some modifications by you guys to see what you thought of them. 1) Weld four loops on the sides of the belly pan that I can use to strap it down to my transmision jack for easier R&R. 2) Weld caps on the inside of the pan over the nuts that secure the engine oil pan access pannel. This will keep dirt, water, out of the threads. Replace the exposed nuts on the bottom with Stainless and thread them into the nut with rtv on the threads to keep dirt and water out of the threads. 3) Im thinking of painting the inside a bright white color so that i can see tools that fall down there and identify the source of leaks faster. Anyone think those are worth the trouble? Any other ideas? The goal is to hopefully make dealing with that heavy piece easier, and take it off less. Thanks ahead of time for your ideas and feedback.

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Coke-in-MN Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Afton MN Points: 41882	Post Options Post Reply Quote Coke-in-MN Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 03 Nov 2019 at 11:43pm
	Lot of work for something that doesn't come off that often On the access panel - just use shorter bolts that don't go much through nuts and then never seize them - the pan get's dirt in it so painting is ? I just use a floor jack as it seems whenever I pull the pan it's not a level spot nis the silicone - use the never seize
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Ian Beale Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 03 Oct 2011 Location: New South Wales Points: 992	Post Options Post Reply Quote Ian Beale Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 04 Nov 2019 at 3:38am
	Have a look at a more modern dozer with a trapdoor panel in the guards for easier cleaning, retrieval etc And in the field lay down a sheet of steel (2 mm thick is enough for a FA 10) to run the floor jack on

Coke-in-MN Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Afton MN Points: 41882	Post Options Post Reply Quote Coke-in-MN Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 04 Nov 2019 at 2:27pm
	yep plywood has a place when doing field work uderneath
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Leop Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Silver Level Joined: 03 Dec 2018 Location: California Points: 161	Post Options Post Reply Quote Leop Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 04 Nov 2019 at 2:44pm
	Now why didn't think of that, or Coke's idea of plywood! Okay, one problem solved.

Ian Beale Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 03 Oct 2011 Location: New South Wales Points: 992	Post Options Post Reply Quote Ian Beale Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 04 Nov 2019 at 2:45pm
	Coke It might suprise you but plywood is pretty well special order here. Steel, on the other hand, - - -

Leop Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Silver Level Joined: 03 Dec 2018 Location: California Points: 161	Post Options Post Reply Quote Leop Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 04 Nov 2019 at 2:56pm
	Good point about it not coming off that often, BUT ..... I am trying to get things sorted out on the oiling system for the clutch. While I cant see a leak yet there must be ine somewhere that accounts for the oil loss. The oil loss caused the pump to be damaged. I repaired myself but im not sure how long my repairs will last while I try to find a DD pump, or machine up an adapter plate for a modern pump. In the mean time getting the pump off from the bottom has been the only way for me because I dare not touch the FI pump! Yes, i wonder about the paint myself. How does so much crap get in there? I could see some dirt getting in, but my God, on mine it was a black hole. Especially with oil and dirt mixed "cement", three inches of leaves, rocks larger than the openings where they would have supposedly gotten in. I found three wrenches and multiple screwdrivers from prior owners, plus a few of mine.

Ian Beale Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 03 Oct 2011 Location: New South Wales Points: 992	Post Options Post Reply Quote Ian Beale Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 04 Nov 2019 at 8:58pm
	"How does so much crap get in there?" Never seen an HD 6 but I'm guessing from experience with an FA 10 that you will have an engine compartment that tapers towards the read and the lower engine rails will be straight. And that you likely don't have engine side screens. So just about anything that lands on the bonnet will end up in the sump guard I finished up doing a detailed study of the screens section in the FA 10 parts book, eventually worked out how Fiat got their design to work and did a copy. It helps, particularly if you are in a lot of sticks. Next "round tuit" will be a trap in the engine guard