RARE FORKLIFT NEED HELP AU-1420

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   Hi, I bought a uleaded gas 4750 lbs lift tht  I beleive from online research is a 1971. It has one plate on the outside chasis /that says
TYPE G
173A
AU-1402

It sounds good when running but is blowing blue smoke
 it can be many things like head gasket oni need to know engine and searchable part refernces like engne type etc

it also needs brakes

the front has no serail number plate 
I am uploading the reference plate I have
the engine is stamped 4512  F

I would lso like to try and get a manual 
I internet searched the au-1402 and two things came up

one this was taken over from lstansteel corp in 1971 (Collection 1402) to allis collection 54

and that some of these models have sold at auction refeenced au-1402 about 3
Thats all I know, can anyone help me shed some light on this model including engine type or what to look for / similiar models for part etc?

Any help is apreciated,
Jeff

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SFV_818 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Bronze Level Joined: 09 Jul 2019 Location: CALIFORNIA Points: 3	Post Options Post Reply Quote SFV_818 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: RARE FORKLIFT NEED HELP AU-1420 Posted: 10 Jul 2019 at 12:41am
	Hi, I bought a uleaded gas 4750 lbs lift tht I beleive from online research is a 1971. It has one plate on the outside chasis /that says TYPE G 173A AU-1402 It sounds good when running but is blowing blue smoke it can be many things like head gasket on i need to know engine and searchable part refernces like engne type etc it also needs brakes the front has no serail number plate I am uploading the reference plate I have the engine is stamped 4512 F I would lso like to try and get a manual I internet searched the au-1402 and two things came up one this was taken over from lstansteel corp in 1971 (Collection 1402) to allis collection 54 and that some of these models have sold at auction refeenced au-1402 about 3 Thats all I know, can anyone help me shed some light on this model including engine type or what to look for / similiar models for part etc? Any help is apreciated, Jeff

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Jim.ME Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 19 Nov 2016 Location: Maine Points: 960	Post Options Post Reply Quote Jim.ME Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 10 Jul 2019 at 5:16am
	Several photos of the machine and engine might help. If your photos are large (high pixels), resize to about 680 x 500 with paint or other program for best viewing here.

jaybmiller Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Greensville,Ont Points: 24406	Post Options Post Reply Quote jaybmiller Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 10 Jul 2019 at 5:26am
	as Jim says , pictures are worth MORE than 1000 words... either resize on your 'device' to 640 x 480 aka VGA or 'email' size or 'upload' them into your spot in the 'file manager' here.We're give 80 megs of free storage,so over 200 'VGA sized' pictures. Once saved, you can resize then add them to your post. Jay
	3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112 Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor) Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water

SFV_818 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Bronze Level Joined: 09 Jul 2019 Location: CALIFORNIA Points: 3	Post Options Post Reply Quote SFV_818 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 11 Jul 2019 at 11:50pm
	Hi, thank you both for your replies. I took a few pictures and can see an engine stamp of 1-3-4-2 then 2-5-4 also another part of the engine is stamped HUS I am attachg the pictures resized as suggested. I am gettng a lot of blue smoke like I mentioned and was told by seller he thought a thicker oil is needed, Im not sure but can use help on identification of this engine and hopefully a way to order a manual I can hardly stop s brakes will be my first order of operations hopefully. I hope some of these pictures means something to some one it seems the 1-3-4-2 relates to engine firing

DiyDave Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Gambrills, MD Points: 53476	Post Options Post Reply Quote DiyDave Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 12 Jul 2019 at 4:50am
	I believe HUS is Hussco, a valve supplier. THere should be a data tag, somewhere on the lift, similar to the last picture, with model, s#, and load capacity, etc...
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Calvin Schmidt Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Ontario Can. Points: 4529	Post Options Post Reply Quote Calvin Schmidt Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 12 Jul 2019 at 5:28am
	Looking at a few clues and the size of the forklift leads me to think you have a 153 Buda engine. Pictures of the engine don't tell me much. Not sure about the angled oil filter.
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im4racin Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 12 Jun 2017 Location: Garrison ND Points: 1013	Post Options Post Reply Quote im4racin Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 12 Jul 2019 at 5:41am
	I would guess that it is a fl40 or fl50 forklift with the 153 buda. The data tag should be on the dash in the middle of the gauges.

Jim.ME Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 19 Nov 2016 Location: Maine Points: 960	Post Options Post Reply Quote Jim.ME Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 12 Jul 2019 at 5:49am
	1-3-4-2 is the engine firing order. That maybe an Allis G153 (Buda 4B-53) engine. As DiyDave posted HUS would be for Hussco, a company that manufactured that valve. The valve is part of the hydraulic system not the engine. The tag you posted is an Underwriters tag as to the machine's fire rating. I don't see that that will be much help in ID'ing the forklift. Would you be able to get some more photos of the engine? Get a lower angle and a bit further back to show better side views. Better lighting will help as well. Also a couple good shots of the valve cover and water pump may help. Some lifts had tags on the dash area with capacities of the lifts, etc., below is a sample of one from the web. Comparing photos of AC forklifts from the web to yours, it looks like an FP series.

jaybmiller Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Greensville,Ont Points: 24406	Post Options Post Reply Quote jaybmiller Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 12 Jul 2019 at 6:26am
	WOW that's the gas version of my Buda dieselled lift ! I've yet to find a svc manual though 'liberatedmanuals.com' have 100s of them..... Both gas and disel engines share a lot of same parts ! Brakes are 'fun' to deal with,though I made a 'lift carrier' to do that. Only get 9' of lift and my 2nd floor is 10', sigh. That back chunk of cast iron is about 4000#, the smaller one blocking the hyd pump is about 300# !!! That needs to be removed to change fanbelt.... GREAT machine though, can lift 5000# easy, 6000# bit of a grunt. Check the Carden u-joint between tranny and diff ! odds are nobody ever greased it. ticking timebomb. I'll change mine( underneath job) when it breaks.... Jay
	3 D-14s,A-C forklift, B-112 Kubota BX23S lil' TOOT( The Other Orange Tractor) Never burn your bridges, unless you can walk on water

Ian Beale Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 03 Oct 2011 Location: New South Wales Points: 992	Post Options Post Reply Quote Ian Beale Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 12 Jul 2019 at 3:53pm
	" Check the Carden u-joint between tranny and diff ! odds are nobody ever greased it. ticking timebomb. I'll change mine( underneath job) when it breaks...." Check what it might hit if that happens before it does. Based on - when I ordered u-joint kits for the shaft in our FA 10 parts bloke said "Just as well you found that. If they let go they usually take out the front cover of the transmission"