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    Posted: 01 Jun 2017 at 12:30am
Can any one explain what is the purpose of the stop bracket on the clutch pedal of my 35 WC ?
I often wonder what  could its purpose be other than to burn the clutch out Wink
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The one to lock the clutch disengaged?   Its for hand cranking to start.   Always always always start a tractor with the clutch disengaged.
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Also to disengage the belt pulley when hooked up to threshers and other equipment.
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or burn out release bearing if run in disengaged  all the time on a bearing that has been in tractor forever  and grease is dried  up in it,

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nonetheless ,still dead.
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They had a grease zert in them.     MACK
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Hi Aaron thanks for your advice, but why do you advise to start the tractor with the clutch engaged ?
yes its possible with the WC as a lock is provided, but on a B or C for instance there is no lock so its not possible to crank it with the clutch engaged, unless you have someone who can assist !! 
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Originally posted by drak drak wrote:

but on a B or C for instance there is no lock so its not possible to crank it with the clutch engaged, unless you have someone who can assist !! 
I've seen B's with it, mine included.
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Oh.......... looks like I need to eat my words Cry 
I have a b and a C and nether have a clutch stop
Thanks Creston 
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My 47 C had a clutch prop when I got it I took it off when I put a pump on the crank.
By the way, it keeps the clutch Disengaged not engaged.
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Our '53 DW had one also.

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Originally posted by drak drak wrote:

Hi Aaron thanks for your advice, but why do you advise to start the tractor with the clutch engaged ?
yes its possible with the WC as a lock is provided, but on a B or C for instance there is no lock so its not possible to crank it with the clutch engaged, unless you have someone who can assist !! 


Pushed in is DISengaged and the tractor can't run over you if it happens to be in gear.
 Also, if you plan on long term storage, you can lock the pedal down so the clutch plates can't rust together.
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most hand crank tractors from all manufactors had a clutch release lock. It's there so when hand cranking it your not turning the input shaft to make hand cranking easier. In cold weather with the old 90 or 130 oil there was significant drag with the clutch engaged. If you had a belt pulley you had to lock the clutch down to start in any weather or you were trying to turn whatever it was attached to. I can tell you from personal experience you weren't able to crank it over and turn the whole sawmill at the same time.
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Now that makes complete sense Dave
Many thanks for the clear explanation Clap
 
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