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    Posted: 27 May 2017 at 9:45pm
I remember reading in a post awhile ago about the 6095 being in the works towards the end of Allis's days. Wouldn't have made more sense to have a trimmed off 426 than trying to put a 301 in it?   Seems like they would have to lengthen the tractor to fit it in. Once you lengthened it wouldn't you lose a lot of nimbleness? 6080 with a shortened 426 set up with a 7060 type pump could have been interesting. But then again I'm not a 301 fan.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote DrAllis Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 May 2017 at 6:30am
Most projects like that are tied to "what is the cost going to be" ??  There was no four-cylinder version of a 426 , which would have been 240+ cubes. There was a 301 and it would have had PLENTY of HP/torque to tear up anything behind it in terms of a Fiat driveline. I'd guess wheel base may have changed 6 to 8 inches and wouldn't have been much of a hindrance to nimbleness.  The biggest flaw in any 301 was the fact they never went to a 3-Oring cylinder sleeve like the 426. Coolant maintenance is critical to see to it the engine doesn't die an early death from sleeve pits or Oring failure.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote victoryallis Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 May 2017 at 3:51pm
When many 6080 dyno 100 plus how much would be gained with a 301?   Cooling was a issue when we tried using it as a replacement to the 7000.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote DrAllis Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 May 2017 at 4:00pm
200 cube 433-I four-banger was only rated by A-C at 100 flywheel HP max. The 301's were as high as 145 flywheel HP. You and others can argue all you want over what a PTO dyno says (and most of them read high), but there's no 433-I engine that will make more HP than a 301 with a turbo.  Cooling problem?? .. never had an issue with that on any 6080 I serviced if the radiator was clean and the rest of the cooling system was up to spec.
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A 6080 has a big radiator with plenty of flow, unless they are plugged up with dust, weeds they do great

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