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What was a "Power Pack"?
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    Posted: 03 Apr 2017 at 1:52pm
I was talking to a friend at church the other day, and he said that on the farm when he was growing up they had a WD that they sent in to get a "Power Pack", to up the horsepower to a WD-45. Does anyone know what all this contained/ what they did to the tractor?
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M & W piston and sleeve kit # SP-46 raised the HP to 40 at the PTO, not 43 like a WD-45. We had one and it never would match the WD-45, altho better than a standard WD at 33 HP.
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Thar's right doc, but if you were driving a 55-56 Chevy or Ford, you had a 4 barrel engine with dual exhaust from the factory..
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I think Dr is right, I remember people who put Power Paks in M IH to make them like a Super M.  I think M and W made them for alot of different tractors.
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dad had M&W kit put in his M Farmall...really made a difference
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The Chevy reference had a "Power Pack" head on the early 265 and 283 engines.  They were identified by a small "Peak" on the end of the head.
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Interesting! Thanks!
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jiminnd.... I would have rather got a real Super M, then I would have had the hydraulics. Smile  
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M&W made a kit for that too.
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Originally posted by DrAllis DrAllis wrote:

M&W made a kit for that too.

Oh, I see.  Thanks! (Learn something new every day!!!! Big smileBig smile)
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M&W made a hand clutch for the M and Super M also
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Learned something else new!! I thought that M&W was just a internal-engine parts manufacturer.... wrong again... LOL. 
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Also they made grain dryers and hay balers. 9 speed transmission kit IH m's.
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The kit also included a carb kit . We made the M&W kits at Seal Power were i used to work.
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 Did the WD crank need to be replaced with a WD-45 crank as well?
I've been told that many farmers replaced the cranks instead of buying a new 45.
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What did the M&W stand for? I've heard of m&w since I was a kid but never who m&w is or was.
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My Grandpa worked with Lester at Sealed Power. For his retirement the plant manager called my Grandpa into his office and lead out a new sleeve and piston set for his WC. They said that WC really ran after that! Grandpa broke his arm, hand starting it once a wile after that and never really used it much again.

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Interesting,  I just learned a lot! Thanks all. 
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I remember M&W turbocharger kits back in the early days of tractor pulling in our area (early 70's).
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A lotta guys put d17 sleeves and pistons in. Don't know if they would work in a straight WD though, know they worked in the WD45. M and w made governors for McCormick Deering 1020's, my 1020 had 1, dual wheel hubs, etc
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Originally posted by HD6GTOM HD6GTOM wrote:

A lotta guys put d17 sleeves and pistons in. Don't know if they would work in a straight WD though, know they worked in the WD45. M and w made governors for McCormick Deering 1020's, my 1020 had 1, dual wheel hubs, etc

D17 pistons on a straight WD 4" stroke tractor don't work well.  Compression ratio is really low.  However I've heard that WD pistons in a 45 or D17 with 4.5" pistons makes the compression so high you almost need racing gas.  I have no first hand knowledge of either of these events, but have seen them discussed on here.
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I have am M Farmall and it has the M&W pistons, nine speed, governor and the hydraulic upgrade. My brother has a straight m and there is no comparison in the two
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