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    Posted: 08 Sep 2016 at 9:29pm
There is a pair of 20.8 x 38" Firestone All Traction Radial 23  with 80% tread coming up at an auction. They are on T rail duals, have not been used for 8 years and always stored inside.  I need a pair the only problem is the date code says they are 20 years old.
Should I have any concerns? Planning to use them as main tires on my tractor and moving the existing tires onto the duals. I don't need the dual rims and hardware. 
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i wouldnt be scared if the price is right.     Heck I'm running the original tires on my 7000.
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Tires do have a life on them but they normally show it with cracks and visual age. I have tires on my 8000 series that are 20 yrs old and kept out of sun and weather when not in field use and they still look almost new.
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I wouldn't be scared. I sold an original tire from my 7080 to my cousin for a dual and he's still using it over five years later.
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I've had the same tires on my C for 32 years. They have minor weather checking but I'm not worried at all. Tires that are kept inside last a long time as long as there not allowed to sit flat. We had one tractor sit over winter on one year old tires one was flat in the spring it had to be changed sitting flat with the tractor wieght on it ruined the cords and it developed a lump shortly after airing it back up.
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Brand new tires wont do that. My dad and i were looking at piles of tires in Beiwer's tractor salvage in Minnesota last weekend. The old tires 60+ years looked better than tires that were ten years old. The rubber was hard but not near as weather checked as a newer tire.
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Sometime in the 70"s my Dad bought a set of good matching 18.4-34 for $10 or something at an auction sale as it seemed no one wanted them. Who knows how old they were then ?I remember rolling them into the back of the barn, didn't see the light of day for 15 years at least. He bought a 200 he wanted to dual up, I rolled those tires out and they were mounted and put on the 200. I suspect they were goodyears but I don't know for sure. The tractor was sold several years later with those tires on them, no problems.  I believe the key is keeping them out of the sun... I think you'll be fine Calvin, jmho, Trev.
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Our 1984 L3 has all the original tires. They look like-new as well.
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some tire shops are getting so they refuse to work on tires over 10 years old 
from car . truck and even lawn mower tires - neighbor just had me fix a tire for him as shop he went to said 8 years was their imit 
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Just got a rim and tire that the tire has the tube showing on the 38" rim...  and its not just an inch, but about 5 inches and the tube is still holding air... not 20 # but maybe 10...
  new china tubes have no real elastic in them and will split if over aired... and the thin stems crack in 5 years if in a big hole rim without a bushing around the stem. Got some tubes that still hold air after 60 years. Bet the china tubes won't last 20.
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Dad put new Chinese tires on his C 5 or 6 years ago. They look like crap now. The face between the lugs is crumbly looking.
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Yup like others have said old tires that where stored inside and didn't have weight left on them are probably as good or better then new. I have a set of tires that are about 5 years old but where left outside and they look like crap all cracked. I put tubes in them and the cracks are not deep enough to bother me. We ran tires with deep weather cracks and tubes for years when I was a kid on 100 hp tractors with out any issues. Remember a tractor is going slow so even if you do get a flat it will more be a headache then a problem.
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A tire shop that won't work on tires more than 10 years old?????!!!!!!.THERE IS A SHOP THAT SHOULD AND WILL BE OUT OF BUSINESS! !!
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The rubber used these days won't last ten years. Most tire dealers figure 5 years is safe, longer is not for car and truck tires or tractor tires. I know the last couple sets of pickup tires have started to crack in the tread grooves at 5 or 6 years, though the tread has enough rubber to wear for another ten years. I think the rears on my '68 4020 are as old as the tractor, but I haven't checked that detail.

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As a kid, I remember Dad dragging the late 40's Dodge pickup to a ravine as we were cleaning up stuff from the previous farm owner. D15 pulled it to the pasture and the trusty old CA picked it up enough to remove all wheels as we wanted to put the US Steel tires on the two hay wagon running gears for new wooden wagons being built. This would have been 65/66 and those wagons were still in use when the farm sold in 1980, never a flat on those old tires that were installed on the front of each wagon and they did not wear period. Remember they were blue in color and had "full white walls". Tried to find a reference to them years later only to find they were very expensive when new but company got out of the tire business as you only bought em' once cuz they never wore out.
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I've got a 1936 Massey Harris hay wagon with wooden running gear. It still has it's original tires and has always been stored inside.  The rubber is a little hard, but still flexible enough to dismount and no cracks.  I've had to replace a couple of tubes in the last few years due to valve stems giving out, but otherwise they are fine.
I think the new tires now are more plastic than rubber!!!
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have heard lots of guys say if you buy new tractor tires try to do it a year in advance so you can let them sit in a barn and "cure". otherwise any little rose bush thorn will go right through them
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Gee Calvin, the rubber on the Gleaner I gave Ron had to be original ( 1961), yeah weather checked but I only 'topped up the air' to dive it to him !!

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All tire shops out here wont touch a tire over 10 years old, if you go in they won't remount, so your stuck buying another tire. Claiming liability issues...
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