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PulliamSB 
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 Topic: Bought B.. How do u use this darn thing?
Posted: 26 Aug 2016 at 8:59pm |
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Hello. Just bought my first Allis Chalmers a couple weeks ago. A 1955 B. Several implements were included, one of which are side and rear cultivators. I'm not sure about a proper way to install the side cultivators. I see they bolt onto the bar on either side which protrudes just above and behind the front wheels, but how do these small chains towards the back of the cultivators connect to the lift? I guess that leads to my next question. My lift control lever is a two way lever, controlling both the rear lift and another lift cylinder which is just below my left foot if I'm on the tractor. What is this "center" lift cylinder called? I'm very unfamiliar with this type of tractor. I've always had a Ford. (I know..I know). Any help would be appreciated. There are also two twin levers that connect to the 'u' shaped bar under the drivers feet. The levers are just to the left of the steering wheel. Maybe this makes sense to someone.. Maybe I'll need pictures. Anyhow, greatly enjoying checking out all the great info and pics on the site!
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DSeries4
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Posted: 26 Aug 2016 at 9:05pm |
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How to use the darn thing? Buy an operator's manual! They are available and cheap on E-bay. It will tell you everything you need to know about your tractor.
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Posted: 26 Aug 2016 at 9:47pm |
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Pictures would be helpful. The "center" lift cylinder and the chains don't sound like stock cultivators for the B. See if you can locate an owners manual for the cultivators and any other pieces of equipment that you have. The B cultivator I am familiar with mounted on each side of the forward part of the torque tube just behind the engine and on each side of the cross bar that your feet rest on and the bottom part of the frame could be lifted with a hand lever or a hydraulic cylinder. Nothing wrong with owning a Ford.
BTW welcome to the Forum. There are people on here who have lots of knowledge (my self not included) and are willing to share it.
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Posted: 26 Aug 2016 at 10:22pm |
 PulliamSB wrote:
I'm very unfamiliar with this type of tractor. I've always had a Ford. (I know..I know). Any help would be appreciated. |
Hey!! Looks like I got me a Ford buddy!!! I have a little 1948 8N that's been in the family since it was new, and I restored it a couple years ago. It's a pretty sweet little tractor, and I'll admit, switching from Ford to Allis does take a little learning, but you'll figure it out! Just curious...what Ford tractors do you have/did have? I'd like to find my great-grandpa's Jubilee, but it's long gone, and we have no serial number. I'd also like to find a 860, or maybe even a late 881 with the updated SOS.
By the way...there's a fella on here that goes by Shameless, and well, you'll find out his opinion of them ol' Fords pretty soon, I bet! But you needn't listen to him. (I'll tell you a secret, I think he's just jealous he doesn't have one!)
I also have a B. It's a 1942 war baby, and I just finished overhauling it. I only have a 6' belly sicklemower for it, as far as mounted implements go, so I can't help you with your cultivator set up, but give it some time, and you'll get it sorted out. Remember, no computers makes it a lot easier! The guys on here are really smart, and they'll get you up and running! I might also suggest you do an e-bay search, and maybe try to find both an operator's manual for the tractor and the cultivator.
Edited by CrestonM - 26 Aug 2016 at 10:24pm
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Posted: 27 Aug 2016 at 12:13am |
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welcome to the forum Steve! and I to agree that you need and owners manuel. they do sell a somewhat manuel at farm supply stores, that will help get you started. then ask on here, i'm sure someone will have an honest to goodness manual for anything
you need! tell us about your farm or acreage and what you do with your tractors! oh...and try not to let that "creston" scare ya, he's a little chit stirrer! lol he keeps trying to go green, and we been having a heck ofa time keeping him on the straight and narrow!
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Posted: 27 Aug 2016 at 2:52am |
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Is there a bell shaped thing hanging under the tractor to attach the rear half to?
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PulliamSB
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Posted: 27 Aug 2016 at 5:54am |
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I had 8ns, that's what my dad always used and I just really liked the simplicity. He had a 4000 or two but usually stuck with a 8/9n. I'll take some pictures today after work and post them. I've had no luck searching for pictures in Google or eBay! That's why I was so glad to find a forum! My family and I bought a piece of an old farmland, a 5 bedroom house and 6 acres. We're starting an organic microfarm there and will begin building this fall/winter. I didn't want a large tractor and I got a deal on this B, so here we are. We both really fell in love with the tractor though haha. It's basically a engine/trans with a seat on it compared to what in used to. But as a mechanic I can appreciate that!
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Posted: 27 Aug 2016 at 5:55am |
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There is no bell shaped item underneath, just this cylinder in question on the left side.
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Ken in Texas
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Posted: 27 Aug 2016 at 7:17am |
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This is for Creston. There is a Blue Jubilee sittin behind my neighbors barn that my son asked about hauling off for them last week. They said come get it. Been too busy and its been way to wet and rainey to drag it across the road. It will be for sale after we get it.
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Posted: 27 Aug 2016 at 7:40am |
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In the later years there were 3 piece cultivators made for B tractors. If you have a pair of hand levers beside the battery box, you have this type. As mentioned above Operators manuals a worth every penny
and the easiest way to do things right.. On the three piece type one of the rear cylinders is swung forward and the chains at the rear of each front section goes up to the bars out from the hand lever.
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Larry in NC
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Posted: 27 Aug 2016 at 7:49am |
The two way control valve is used to control the front cultivator ram separate from the back. That way you can start down a row and drop the front section and then move the control lever over and drop the back shanks. The u shaped thing with the levers is the depth control for the front cultivator sections. There is also a screw handle to adjust the depth for the rear tool bar. The hydraulic rams lift and drop and are not meant to hold position. The two front sections of the cultivator frame bolt to the side of the tractor and the chains you mention go on the tube frame for the depth adjustment levers. The front ram also attaches to that unit. Since you have not set one up before, the manual would be very helpful.
If you look for a manual, your cultivator is for a later model B. The earlier models and a one piece frame cultivator with the independent front rear operation.
Edited by Larry in NC - 27 Aug 2016 at 8:01am
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Posted: 27 Aug 2016 at 8:09am |
First Welcome to the Forum. Also, thank you for obtaining my Favorite Allis Chalmers tractor the B. You will find it is very dependable, extremely basic, and fun to use. From your description it looks like you have obtained a very late B with four bolt holes in the torque tube. That is where the two depth control levers go. That adjustment package controls the front section of the cultivator and allows the lift cylinder mounting. As said above I would strongly suggest you look for a manual for the (I think - cause I do not have my library available) 100 series cultivator. That will completely explain the mounting. Again, congratulations for obtaining my favorite. Take good care of it. Good Luck! Bill Long
ps: If you want to talk further try me on the Private Mail section of this forum under Bill Long
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Posted: 27 Aug 2016 at 8:16am |
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Wow guys thanks! That makes perfect sense. I was thinking the chains would be adjustment but like I said, I'm a newbie to this tractor. I will still post pics later on today. It also has a dresser sprocket on the left rear wheel. I'm thinking someone really put this tractor to good use in its prime. It's been very well taken care of. Thanks again!
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Posted: 27 Aug 2016 at 10:21am |
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Not ever having a B, we did have a C and I've cultivated an unbelievable amount with it. I think the two cultivators are somewhat alike. The chains on the C were used to regulate the fender height so that the soil could be moved right up to the plants without covering them. If you were careful in getting them adjusted they would do a slick job and keep the field quite clean, with really no need for a herbicide. Of course for the big corporate farming they wouldn't be practical for their high production needs. From what you say you're going to be using it for you couldn't have bought a better tractor. As for comparing it to an 8N there is no comparison. Durability, fuel use is way less than an 8N. The mounted equipment is a big plus for the 8N, but you can navigate around that pretty easy. Like others have said books are the key for you. The mounted 16" plow really works good and they are still available in good condition. If you find a 6' Kelly Ryan disc you would have the best pull type disc ever made. Depending on how well your B runs, it might be a load for it, but our C handled it very well. And the Woods belly mower works great with a B and really cover some ground mowing. Hope you have a blast with it and oh yeah, how about some pics.?
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