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Driverdan 
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 Topic: 444 Baler knotted brake
Posted: 29 Jul 2015 at 9:13am |
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Can anyone help me please?? Was bailing with 444 and D17 when Baler started breaking flywheel shear pins. Timing is good, makes perfect knots an bales (when working). Problem is after tying a bale, needles will fall from retracted position back into bale chamber-causing plunger stop to engage, plunger then contacts stop and breaks shear pin. I believe knotted brake is totally worn - no adjustment left. Agco dealer says obsolete and out of stock. Does anyone know where I may find a knotted brake ( # 543546 ). Or is there something else that should needles in retracted position??? Thanks to all....Dan
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tadams(OH)
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Posted: 29 Jul 2015 at 10:27am |
You might take the brake off and go to a New Holland or another dealer to see if they will fit. Tom
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Ky.Allis
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Posted: 29 Jul 2015 at 10:35am |
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I put new brake pads on my 444 about 15 years ago and they were obsolete then. I took the brake assembly to a clutch rebuilder and he made some brake pads for it and riveted them on. He didn't charge much and it has worked perfect ever since.
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Skyhighballoon(MO)
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Posted: 29 Jul 2015 at 10:45am |
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Might be something Rick Corder (aka Rick) here could do as he relines brakes along with doing clutches? PM him. Mike
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1981 Gleaner F2 Corn Plus w 13' flex
1968 Gleaner EIII w 10' & 330
1969 180 gas
1965 D17 S-IV gas
1963 D17 S-III gas
1956 WD45 gas NF PS
1956 All-Crop 66 Big Bin
303 wire baler, 716H, 712H mowers
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orangereborn
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Posted: 29 Jul 2015 at 11:01am |
 Driverdan wrote:
Can anyone help me please?? Was bailing with 444 and D17 when Baler started breaking flywheel shear pins. Timing is good, makes perfect knots an bales (when working). Problem is after tying a bale, needles will fall from retracted position back into bale chamber-causing plunger stop to engage, plunger then contacts stop and breaks shear pin. I believe knotted brake is totally worn - no adjustment left. Agco dealer says obsolete and out of stock. Does anyone know where I may find a knotted brake ( # 543546 ). Or is there something else that should needles in retracted position??? Thanks to all....Dan |
I can help you out. Be thankful that the plunger stop was up to date....Call me.....Dale
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CTuckerNWIL
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Posted: 29 Jul 2015 at 2:33pm |
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You should have a local shop that can add brake lining.
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Driverdan
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Posted: 30 Jul 2015 at 7:13pm |
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Thanks to all who responded. I followed suggestion and found a heavy truck shop and got brake rebuilt (also included a extra set of linings all for 25 bucks). Also think I found real source of problem. Large castle nut on left end of knotter shaft was loose, causing roller to slip past dog in clutch housing. Due to rain, not able to test it out...but am gaurdedly optimistic...Thanks again (I love to keep the old orange going)...Dan
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