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Tbone95 ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 31 Aug 2012 Location: Michigan Points: 12160 |
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RR1 is off patent, shouldn't have to pay anything. |
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ILGLEANER ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: Willow Hill,ILL Points: 6448 |
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What a stupid statement, where do idiots think these beans come from every year ? Farmers grow them,Put them in the bin. The seed company picks them up, they clean them and put them in bags. No different then you or l would do. |
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Skyhighballoon(MO) ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Pilot Grove, MO Points: 3115 |
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John I guess that neighbor also thinks all food comes from a grocery store???? Mike |
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CTuckerNWIL ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: NW Illinois Points: 22825 |
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So if I plant bin run beans from the neighbor, does Monsanto have to do DNA testing to know if they are RR1? How do they find out who's planting what to sue the right people?
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ILGLEANER ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: Willow Hill,ILL Points: 6448 |
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The patent is off of RR 1 soybeans. You can keep them for seed, you can't sell them. So your neighbor couldn't sell them to you. Mother Monsanto says they can take a test, to see if there RR1or RR2. Guess who loses ? But if you can prove all you have planted is RR1 your in the clear, Don't ask me how l know
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CTuckerNWIL ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: NW Illinois Points: 22825 |
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Well, I have never bought soybeans from any neighbor
![]() I was thinking of making up a good story so the Monsanto trolls would waste a bunch of time and money checking me out ![]() Edited by CTuckerNWIL - 14 Sep 2016 at 6:01pm |
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Lena 1935 WC12xxx, Willie 1951 CA6xx Dad bought new, 1954WD45 PS, 1960 D17 NF |
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Daehler ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 23 Nov 2010 Location: Lexington MO Points: 1160 |
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Its mother Bayer now and a 66 billion dollar agreement . |
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Jwmac7060 ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 04 Jan 2014 Location: Indiana Points: 929 |
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I know guys around here who have been keeping and cleaning their own beans around here forever...even before the patents came off...u hear stories of guys getting caught but I don't know any of them...I know a guy that kept his liberty beans last year replanted them and nobody ever said a word...I suppose if you're a big time operator u may be in jeopardy but the little guys can go unoticed as long as they're not trying to get the rebate on the chemical too
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ILGLEANER ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: Willow Hill,ILL Points: 6448 |
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There were several guys around here that paid triple digit fines. Know them personally. That's why l never did it, until the patent ran out.
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Jwmac7060 ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 04 Jan 2014 Location: Indiana Points: 929 |
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That's because you love in the people's republic of Illinois...big brother is always watching over there...move east Ilgleaner we will make room for u in the good ole red Hoosier state....by the way corn is down to 18% and only making bout 150 over here...lot of guys very disappointed,thought it was gonna be a bumper crop...just too hot for too long over here this summer...oh well farming never has been easy
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7060 ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 16 Sep 2009 Location: Missouri Points: 1148 |
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That's about like playing with fire. There's a local guy that got caught saving roundup beans that can't buy anything but conventional now. I don't know how he even gets a combine through his beans they are so bad.
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shameless (ne) ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 08 Jul 2016 Location: nebraska Points: 7463 |
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they came to my place once, big green farmer neighbor turned me in! I had saved the seed bags to prove I bought new seed and showed what acres were mine. I wasn't bothered again after that. I still always bought new seed each year as I would never been able to pay any fine! I then told them to go check a certain building where the big green farmer neighbor kept last years beans for planting the next year! guess what they found! turn about is fair play!
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wekracer ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 13 Oct 2009 Location: Tebbetts, MO Points: 1590 |
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I know two guys who got caught. One of them is a family friend. He is in his 80's and only farms about 200 acres. He told my dad don't ever save seed beans and there were tears in his eyes. That was about 10 years ago.
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orangereborn ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: NW WI Points: 1478 |
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VAfarmboy ![]() Silver Level ![]() Joined: 06 Dec 2013 Location: Virginia Points: 470 |
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Yeah his neighbor must have been listening to all of those university extension specialists who were saying that saving seed is not a good idea (even though the patents are off) claiming it wouldn't yield as well. I heard several of them say that and read several articles written by extension specialists to that effect. I have a pretty good idea where their research $$$ were coming from. Edited by VAfarmboy - 16 Sep 2016 at 2:08pm |
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