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fixer1958 ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 13 Feb 2010 Location: kansas Points: 2434 |
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Would you guys mind giving me your opinion of these. Looks feasible to me.
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jaybmiller ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Greensville,Ont Points: 24397 |
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gee I'm wondering if 'penny pavers' ( 12" circles of concrete) would do the same at 1/2 the cost ? The REAL 'trick' is to get the post BELOW the frost line, about 3.5' up here....
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steve(ill) ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: illinois Points: 85898 |
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one of the 10 inch plastic feet cost as much as 3 bags of concrete..I would rather have some concrete AROUND the post also... up above ground level.
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Like them all, but love the "B"s.
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ac fleet ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 12 Jan 2014 Location: Arrowsmith, ILL Points: 2330 |
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I second the concrete! plastic is too light and bends easily. concrete stays rigid! just my pref.
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john(MI) ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: SE MI Points: 9262 |
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It looks like a great spot for water to collect to help rot the posts. I've always put rocks in the bottom for drainage, concrete on top around the posts. If I get to build a new deck I am going to fill the hole with concrete and put a footing bracket in the wet concrete.
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tadams(OH) ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 Sep 2009 Location: Jeromesville, O Points: 10652 |
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I always dumped some sackcrete into the bottom of the hole and it draws moister and set up for a pad
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DMiller ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Hermann, Mo Points: 33217 |
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I have used 2-3" of clean rock to allow drainage then back tamped DRY Concrete into the hole and backfilled with the diggings, Post hole is allowed to drain off moisture and post is essentially set in slow setting concrete. Fence posts I do the same with the sackrete, stand post up in hole, fill and back tamp concrete then cover with diggings, not had a bad set post yet.
There are Post Sleeves out there for better rot strength and some have switched up to footers or piers and bolting heads above grade, posts won't then rot. Edited by DMiller - 07 Feb 2020 at 2:44pm |
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Dave in PA ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: Mars/Wexford PA Points: 2627 |
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Would not work here! We have strict codes on things like that. Must be below the frost line, memory? work, I think 17-20" diam. footing, tubes to ground, concrete to the top, with bolts and the post anchor plates to separate the post from the crete. with a few inspection in there! 1 for the hole, 1 for the tubes and crete, 1 after framing.
Posts buried in concrete now days is not allowed, must be separated to my knowledge. Code thing, for the moisture trapped from the ground weeping down the post, is trapped, and has no where to go. Edited by Dave in PA - 07 Feb 2020 at 4:06pm |
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trace ![]() Silver Level ![]() Joined: 01 Aug 2012 Location: N.W. Iowa Points: 499 |
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don't know what their selling. posts themselves at the frostline. typ post frame const without conc round the post. frost depth kansas 34". would just use 8" sona tube with 2x6 built up treated 6x6 post. don't skimp on fdn.
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Coke-in-MN ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Afton MN Points: 41862 |
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Says code compliant by ICC so dependin on what has been adopted by your state - I would say depending on how much weight you are going to put on pad or footing would govern use - for a deck they might work but it seems many place do now want separation of above and below ground post as separeat units . Especially for residential construction where more than a deck is involved
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Dave H ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Central IL Points: 3563 |
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I use thee same formula as DMiller.
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Kurzy ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 02 Nov 2009 Location: WSS, Montana Points: 808 |
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Howdy, Problem with the big ones, 16-24 inch is pole buildings here only drill 12 inch for poles! Kurzy
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plummerscarin ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 22 Jun 2015 Location: ia Points: 3782 |
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Depends on what you're building. The keyword for me is in the title. Deck post. If putting up a shed its not likely to be listed for that. As stated already, check local codes. You may find them online for your jurisdiction. If you need/get a permit, contact the inspector for insight. Hopefully they are willing to answer questions and work with you during the project. Whether you get inspected or not, build to those codes and reduce the agony if you get busted.
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fixer1958 ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 13 Feb 2010 Location: kansas Points: 2434 |
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Thought about using them for a deck walkway around the house to connect front and rear porches. Another was a lean to for firewood. Just throwing the idea out there to see what you thought. Cost effectiveness, efficiency, practicality etc. At about 2' I hit limestone depending on the area. I have always put gravel in the bottom and sackrete around the post and dirt the rest. I saw them at Lowes is what got me thinking about it.
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Ross D. ![]() Silver Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 02 Sep 2013 Location: Erin, Ont. Points: 339 |
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Good morning. I have not seen any notes on the 'uplift' factor. In our builing codes (Municipal, Provincial, and Federal) an uplift factor is probably required. Wind factor, remember the 'blow and suck' factor. In general, the size of the footing, concrete size, and the direct attachment of the footing to the post is required. Here, any building over 108 sq. ft. (garden size), requires a building permit. Your Building Dept. should be a friendly source of initial information. Ross.
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shameless dude ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 10 Apr 2017 Location: east NE Points: 13607 |
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only good thing I can see out of the plastic ones are that they are made with recycled materials. less landfill fill. about anything put down the holes for posts will outlast our generation and maybe the next one, usually the holes are put in virgin soil that is naturally compacted. I do agree with it holding water in them pockets tho.
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