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Foot Throttle On A D/100 Series ??

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    Posted: 15 Mar 2022 at 6:43pm
Was it ever an option on these gals? If not, did any of you "farmerize" one ?? Big smile
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I have a D-10 that I like to take on caravans that I've thought about making a foot throttle for.  Not sure how nice it would be to use.
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Worked for a neighbor years ago that had foot throttle on JI Case 1175, 1030, 970, and a 770. He also had an 830, but the previous owner removed it. At times they are useful, but growing up on tractors that didn’t have them, never got into the habit of using them much.
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Optional on D21.

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Charlie made one for his 190XT, works really good.
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Originally posted by Lars(wi) Lars(wi) wrote:

Worked for a neighbor years ago that had foot throttle on JI Case 1175, 1030, 970, and a 770. He also had an 830, but the previous owner removed it. At times they are useful, but growing up on tractors that didn’t have them, never got into the habit of using them much.
Funny that you mention JI CASE, I was a hired hand on 2 dairy farms that ran all Case tractors from a RC to a 1070, the 530,630,730 had the foot throttle. I don't recall it on the 830/930 though Embarrassed. There was none on the 870 or the 1070 that I ran for them. Man, that was a LOOOONG time ago Lars yet seems like yesterday now that I think about it LOLSmile !!
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A Decellerator pedal would probably be more useful in most circumstances... 

An accellerator would have to take the engine from low idle, up to some governed speed.  A Decellerator pedal drops it from whatever governed speed, down to idle...
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I have a 1946 WC turned around with a forklift on it.  No throttle only the foot throttle.  Works good.
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The industrial models had a foot throttle.
My I600 has.
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Originally posted by AC720Man AC720Man wrote:

Charlie made one for his 190XT, works really good.

I did farmerize one.
Here is the video

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my one-sixty has one on it and I'm surprised how quick I got used to it and use it
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Originally posted by DaveKamp DaveKamp wrote:

A Decellerator pedal would probably be more useful in most circumstances... 

An accellerator would have to take the engine from low idle, up to some governed speed.  A Decellerator pedal drops it from whatever governed speed, down to idle...
You mean like, .....taking your foot off the pedal? LOL  Or, putting the throttle lever in the low position?  Been driving tractor for close to 50 years......never wished I could do that with a pedal, but I've used a foot throttle most days for the last 20+ years.
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Hand preset throttle means just ONE LESS thing your feet have to do, or you have to think about... Normally set at a constant speed and GO... If your using it as a loader, or application where you need to change throttle position constantly,... maybe.
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Originally posted by steve(ill) steve(ill) wrote:

Hand preset throttle means just ONE LESS thing your feet have to do, or you have to think about... Normally set at a constant speed and GO... If your using it as a loader, or application where you need to change throttle position constantly,... maybe.

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Originally posted by steve(ill) steve(ill) wrote:

Hand preset throttle means just ONE LESS thing your feet have to do, or you have to think about... Normally set at a constant speed and GO... If your using it as a loader, or application where you need to change throttle position constantly,... maybe.
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Not sure the angle you're coming from.....?

I've ran, oh.....5 or 6 different tractors with a foot throttle, and they all have had both a hand and foot throttle, not a foot throttle instead.  AND, they all have had the hand throttle act in a steady fixed position, but the foot throttle is spring returned like a car.  Would never use foot throttle doing field work, between the bumps and your reaction, things get pretty unstable!  But, for handling round bales, going across the yard, backing up to something sort of far away and covering the first part of the distance a little quicker.....there's lots of little things the foot throttle is handy for.
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Would never use foot throttle doing field work, between the bumps and your reaction, things get pretty unstable!  (Hand preset throttle means just ONE LESS thing your feet have to do, or you have to think about... Normally set at a constant speed and GO)... But, for handling round bales, going across the yard, backing up to something sort of far away and covering the first part of the distance a little quicker.....there's lots of little things the foot throttle is handy for.  (If your using it as a loader, or application where you need to change throttle position constantly,)..

Well............ thats what i was trying to say...


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Like them all, but love the "B"s.
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Yeah, I mean, I knew partly what you meant about the loader, but part of it sounded like you were like against it or something ( one less thing for your foot to do) and part of it sounded like you didn’t know they were temporary position type.

It’s all good, just being clear.
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Normally my feet are too busy planted on the floor board trying to stableize my bodyto worry about running a foot feed !!........... Our CASE 530 backhoe has a foot pedal.. Never have figured out when to use it ! Wink
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Originally posted by Tbone95 Tbone95 wrote:

Originally posted by DaveKamp DaveKamp wrote:

A Decellerator pedal would probably be more useful in most circumstances... 

An accellerator would have to take the engine from low idle, up to some governed speed.  A Decellerator pedal drops it from whatever governed speed, down to idle...

You mean like, .....taking your foot off the pedal? LOL  Or, putting the throttle lever in the low position?  Been driving tractor for close to 50 years......never wished I could do that with a pedal, but I've used a foot throttle most days for the last 20+ years.
AC HD16 dozer has a foot decelerator pedal. While engine is set at high idle & maybe pushing forward a blade full, but then it needs to stop forward travel & reverse travel? Push down decelerator pedal with one of your feet to allow easier gear shifting of transmission(one hand- while slightly lifting blade(other hand).. Once gear is in reverse & blade lifted slightly, then let off decelerator pedal & away it reverses travel. It a nice feature that allows less wear on trans shift & frees up hands from hand throttle being in the mix too.

Charlie175, that’s a sweet XT with your new fabbed foot speed. Love those great 301 sounds! Thanks for sharing.

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Originally posted by DaveKamp DaveKamp wrote:

A Decellerator pedal would probably be more useful in most circumstances... 

An accellerator would have to take the engine from low idle, up to some governed speed.  A Decellerator pedal drops it from whatever governed speed, down to idle...
Sorry Dave, NOT talking about the CAT bulldozer  set-up Wink . Strictly a foot pedal that over-rides the hand throttle EmbarrassedLOL.
 



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Originally posted by steve(ill) steve(ill) wrote:

Hand preset throttle means just ONE LESS thing your feet have to do, or you have to think about... Normally set at a constant speed and GO... If your using it as a loader, or application where you need to change throttle position constantly,... maybe.
LMAO STEVIE !!!!  You're the guy that can't chew bubble gum and spit at the same time LOLLOLLOL !!! I'll bet you can't operate a "BOBCAT" brand skid steer with foot pedal boom/bucket controls either ClapClap !!!!
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5040 and 5050 had foot throttle as did all Fiat built tractors,especially handy doing loader work,just set the hand throttle at idle and use the foot throttle.My cars and trucks all have foot throttles did have a Model A Ford with a hand throttle one time.
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 I'll bet you can't operate a "BOBCAT" brand skid steer with foot pedal boom/bucket controls either

sorry 4700 poster, but YOU and your WINKERS would be WRONG again !!  LOL   LOL
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Originally posted by steve(ill) steve(ill) wrote:

 I'll bet you can't operate a "BOBCAT" brand skid steer with foot pedal boom/bucket controls either

sorry 4700 poster, but YOU and your WINKERS would be WRONG again !!  LOL   LOL
 
LMAO !!!! You said yourself you couldn't figure out the backhoe pedal !!!!
And, you left out 1/2 of my reply for some reason EmbarrassedClap


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The CASE foot throttle was AWSESOME for dairy farm feedlot use Tongue !! It was pretty useful for "tucking-away" machinery in the machine shed also Clap
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I made one up for a D grader. Helped with double clutching when shifting on the run. It also had too many things that needed operating with your hands.
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You said yourself you couldn't figure out the backhoe pedal !!!

POOR IGNORANT 4700 poster.... I said their is NO REASON for the foot pedal on a backhoe .  LOL
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Steiger tractors had a decelerate pedal, I though it was pretty handy.
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And for some reason you omitted half of my statement Confused ??
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