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    Posted: 21 Sep 2019 at 2:49pm
I know this is a long shot, but does anyone know if the lower axle tube bracket that is welded onto the tube can be purchased? I looked at Ford parts and they do not sell it.


99F250 SD 4x4, front axle, right side. the spring sits on top of the axle tube and the bracket I am asking about is welded onto the bottom of the tube. the U bolts go over the spring leaf, down past the tube an through this bracket. the sway bar also mounts to this bracket. Hoping this would be an after market item, but, I really doubt it.

this one is Swiss cheese
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I'd goto LMC part website...
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Might haveta take your portable hand grinder, to one at a Ford junkyard...

With my luck, all of them there, would have parts in worse shape, or not there, at all...Wink
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Can't ya just use a standard U bolt with the saddle and after it's tightened weld the saddle in to place.
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well ya, that's the plan, but I was hoping to not need to fab a new saddle. like I said, this also has a mount for the sway bar. As Dave says I thought about salvaging, but that may be iffy, the yard may bit want one cut off of an axle. worth a try. In any event one can be fabbed, just more work
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add yours to the ferd junk yard? (poke,poke)
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SOME of the junkyard parts are usable, just gotta spend a lot of time lookin around. I would fab something up and go with it. Whatever you do is gonna cost time and money.
Last option is what Shameless suggested .
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Shamless, that is probably going to be the end result sooner than later in any case. this is a '99, with about 80k mikes, and viewing it from 100 feet it looks in really nice shape. But underneath it is rusting away.....I mean way beyond Fords normal rust problem. Not just sheet metal, but frame, axles, springs, et VERY heavy rust. It probably only has another year or two before frame goes. I bought this thing used, so I do not know of it's history, except that I am the second owner, but it looks to me like it was not used much, and was stored on top of a salt pile. I know Fords like to rust, but this is well beyond that. I thought maybe it was a reclaimed flood victim they snuck in on me, but I cant imagine setting in water a week or two doing this kind of damage unless there was something in the water
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Lou if it came from WI, there's something in the water. LOL
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With age and probable use, do you really need the sway bar?  I personally think they're over rated!
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When i broke the quad shock mounts of the axle on my Blazer i could not get one took it to the dealer they welded it back broke it again. I had to build my own shok mounts from 3/16" metal once i cut the other side off i made a cardboard pattern and just bent the card board the other direction to make a mirror image it took me anout 8 hours to fabricate and install two mounts twice as thick as the originals.after alot of off road it was still good 100k miles later. Use a hot weld to the tube. The dealer Mig welded it the first time and it didn't last.
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Can't wire weld on them,--it wont hold ---- gotta use stick so you get good welds.
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Lou,from your description the vehicle has stage three road cancer! You should consider this diagnosis as an indicator that your vehicle is close to going for its last ride for the great scrap yard! My experience we!ding on manure spreaders which rust out similar to salt exposed vehicles is the metal is severely weakened and difficult to find good metal to weld to without major fabrication and by that time you have to calculate the amount of material,money and time versus a different turd hearse!
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After seeing and having MIG test welds tested at the Nuke can state they do not penetrate well enough for high stress equipment unless go heavy wire and tons of heat then are adequate at best. Stick is the best penetrating holding weld.
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Lou can ya weld yet?
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Originally posted by john(MI) john(MI) wrote:

With age and probable use, do you really need the sway bar?  I personally think they're over rated!

well, ya'. first, it wont pass state inspection, and second, the same mounting fixture is also the lower plate to keep the axle in close flying formation to the leaf springs
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Originally posted by chaskaduo chaskaduo wrote:


Lou can ya weld yet?


Oh, I can weld....sorta. Been doing it most of my life, but one, even when I could do a decent job, I usually had to get coaching to set it....right rod, heat range, etc, and two, my eyes and hands aren't what they used to be. I am pretty confident I could do this, IF I had another axle to practice on first. I found a kid who is a professional welder to do it
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