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Posted: 19 May 2019 at 3:26pm |
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Question ; Have anyone out there used baler belting for flat belt drive machines such as threshing machine or sawmill? I would like to come up with a 12 inch wide affordable drive belt approx. 50 to 70 feet between pullys
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Jim Hancock
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Posted: 19 May 2019 at 7:32pm |
Hi. I bought some baler belting to run the buzz saw on the front end of my WD45. It does just fine and doesn't slip off very easy. The rubber really grips the shaft pulley.
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Posted: 19 May 2019 at 9:15pm |
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Baler belts are about 30 feet. That's 6 splices to hold 5 belts together. We ran a twisted belt to get the correct rotation when running a threshing machine. All those splices in a twisted belt would be a problem. The pulley on my WD 45 is only wide enough for a 8" belt. I worked a Sumer at my grandpas sawmill. The belt was 140' it was about 70 feet from the WC to the mill box. Again running a twisted belt. Twisted belts help keep them centered on the pulleys and adds just a little more wrap. 8" belt would drag the WC down to stall without slipping.
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Matt (Jordan,MN)
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Posted: 19 May 2019 at 9:35pm |
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It would probably work. It should have 2 ply of cording in it. The only bad thing is that it will have a lacing in it. Lacing's can pull out or break. I had a lacing wire work out of the lacing and cut a belt on my threshing machine. Here in Minnesota it's still a law that the belt from the power source to the implement being ran needs to be endless.
The reason they are twisted is to reverse direction. And you always twist it so the slack side of the belt is towards the wind. This way the tight side keeps it from coming off
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Posted: 19 May 2019 at 9:41pm |
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I think dad still has the 1 we ran the hammermill. Unfortunately I won't be down for over a week. I think it wad an 8" belt. We ran it with the WD45. If its in the shed it will be for sale. Memory is bad. It would be the wed after this coming holiday before I can get down these. If you haven't found something by then, send me a reminder PM.
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Posted: 20 May 2019 at 6:34am |
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The reason I was asking is at our tractor club we are modifying our saw mill so we can run an edger off of the main arbor in addition to the saw and sawdust chain. During our show we usually power the mill with a 30/90 Avery or a 60 Case (both steam) Both engines can be run either direction but we usually run with a twist to keep slack side from dragging the ground when under a heavy pull. We curently are using a 8" belt but some think with the additional load we need a 12" belt. I tend to agree and at the GOTO at Moon lk WI a few years ago they had similar setup. Thanks for all the insight!! Mark
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Posted: 20 May 2019 at 7:22am |
I remember growing up that when running the blower filling silo that they liked to run with a twisted belt, and made sure that the belt was right side out. I was at a tractor show a few years ago, and saw something being run with a flat belt. One end of the belt was right side out and the other end was wrong side out. Never seen that before or since. I've wondered if that was the way the guys running it thought that was the way to have a crossed belt.
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Posted: 20 May 2019 at 11:31am |
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If your running steam on it you will need a heavier belt to Handle the torque. Steam belts are 5 ply 3 rubber and 2 nylon cording. The rubber plys are about twice as thick as a tractor belt. A endless 5 ply 8in wide by 60 ft between pulleys is $2100. I just ordered one for running a thresher for are club.
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Posted: 20 May 2019 at 12:38pm |
 Dusty MI wrote:
I remember growing up that when running the blower filling silo that they liked to run with a twisted belt, and made sure that the belt was right side out.I was at a tractor show a few years ago, and saw something being run with a flat belt. One end of the belt was right side out and the other end was wrong side out. Never seen that before or since. I've wondered if that was the way the guys running it thought that was the way to have a crossed belt. |
It may have to do with the belt becoming a Mobius strip... the idea being you get 2x surface wear (theoretically)
google Mobius
or watch this;
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Posted: 20 May 2019 at 12:44pm |
Gatz in NE wrote:
Dusty MI wrote:
I remember growing up that when running the blower filling silo that they liked to run with a twisted belt, and made sure that the belt was right side out.I was at a tractor show a few years ago, and saw something being run with a flat belt. One end of the belt was right side out and the other end was wrong side out. Never seen that before or since. I've wondered if that was the way the guys running it thought that was the way to have a crossed belt. |
It may have to do with the belt becoming a Mobius strip... the idea being you get 2x surface wear (theoretically)
google Mobius
or watch this;
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