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F Gleaner in soybeans
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    Posted: 28 Oct 2011 at 10:28am
Can somebody tell me the correct way to set the head up for beans.   Most combines i see running in beans shave the ground nicely.  Mine, on the other hand, will either dig in the dirt or leave a stubble on the ground leaving the bottom pods of the bean stock.   It is a 13 foot orange head.   There are 4 sets of "skid plates" under the head attached to what looks like a spring.  Does this have to be in a certain position?  Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated.  
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It depends if you have header control or not. It sounds like you have the Hart-Carter floating cutter bar. If you don't have the header control you want to run the cutter bar on the ground but the head raised up so the bar can go up and down with the terrain. For the initial setting put the head all the way down, then raise it up until the bar is in the mid-range of it's travel. You will still have to adjust manually as you go through the field, but learn to pickout some visual key as to where the bar is in relationship to the head. I think the information for the cutter bar is in the operator's manual.
 
If you have the automatic adjuster on the combine it is a piece of cake, set the bar on the ground, put the header hydraulic control in "float" and adjust the valve on the right side of the cab until you have the desired header and cutter bar height.


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You have a flex head,or it would't have skid plates.They can be bolted up solid and won't flex.push up on the cutter bar and see if it is flexable.If it is flexable maybe your skid plates are bent up too far.  Good luck    Bill
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Check to see if the brackets under the cutterbar are still bolted rigid. They are vertical flat brackets with multiple holes used to bolt the cutterbar rigid mostly for cutting wheat. If you un-bolt those brackets, the cutterbar will drop about 6in or so and be flexible. Hope you understand this, wish I was there to show you. Good luck!
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Steelwheel,
 
I do understand what you are saying.  I have bolted the head rigid and unbolted the head to let it drop.   Still just doesn't do a very good job.  Have a feeling the springs may be worn out or perhaps bent somewhere.   Really considering a newer head.   Thanks to all for the information and help.  It is much appreciated.
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Buy you a JD flex head and mount it on your F then you will have a head that will work.  MACK
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one other thing...make sure you have the same air pressure in each front tires! as that will allow the head to dig on one end.
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