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marion ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 19 May 2010 Points: 586 |
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have been doing some research and studying into retrofitting electric powersteering unit out of a car onto a tractor. sure looks cheap and easy compared to the alternative. I was not aware cars had been using it for 10 years. Looked like ideal setup for a wd or 45, or perhaps garden tractor. has anybody done this yet?
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Gerald J. ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Hamilton Co, IA Points: 5636 |
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Electric power steering seems to work well in my 2015 Fiesta SFE hatch back with its 42 cubic inch engine ecoboost. I suspect it requires a bit larger alternator than it would have without the electric power steering though the battery can supply peak electric loads if the alternator can keep up on the average. Many a vintage tractor has a marginal battery charging system planning mostly for replacing energy used for starting over a couple hours or longer of operation. That won't keep up with electric power steering, I think.
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Stan IL&TN ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: Elvis Land Points: 6730 |
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They even have electric power steering on ATV's now because they keep making them bigger and bigger.
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davh ![]() Silver Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 27 Apr 2016 Location: Kansas Points: 117 |
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Sounds interesting. Would like to try that myself on a B or C tractor. Have one that has a loader and help with the steering would be a great help.
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Steve in NJ ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Andover, NJ Points: 12009 |
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With most folks converting over to 12V's and an Alternator, most of the Alts used in the swap are 35 amp or better, so retrofitting an electric P/S setup on the Tractor probably wouldn't be to tough a task for the charging system. Most of the time during the day the Headlights aren't used, and if the Tractor is equipped with a Battery ignition, that really doesn't take a lot of current to sustain anyway, so the electric P/S would probably work quite well on the early Tractors especially equipped with a loader up front. The Alts on these swaps for what they have to power don't even need the fan because they're not working hard at all. On a later model Tractor with cab and extra stuff like an Automobile, then a larger Alt would fit the bill. I would say from a D14-up the larger Alt would work quite well. I have electric P/S in my 06' Malibu. Works quite well so far...
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davh ![]() Silver Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 27 Apr 2016 Location: Kansas Points: 117 |
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Just a quick google search shows that maximum pull would be 58 amps. And that would not be for that long a period I wouldn't think.
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desertjoe ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 23 Sep 2013 Location: New mexico Points: 13729 |
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Hey Marion,,,I sure hope you have better luck than I did on lookin into a possible 12 VDC conversion power steering for your tractor. I have a weak PS pump on my D14 W/ loader and is an absolute bear to turn with just half a load of dirt in bucket. From what I read,,those PS units are mostly placed in the lighter cars. Ford experimented with them on the F150 and had lots of issues with them on first models as they take a whole lot of amps to generate the torque for a 1/2 ton trk,,let alone an industrial tractor,,,Several people with ford trks were adament it would NOT work,,,??? I'm in your corner, if you figure it out,,and seems like a great project for some dedicated AC guy to pursue,,,,,?? I been closely followin "CogginOBrien's D15 SeriesIII) thread on designing an additional hydraulic pump on his D15, and looks real promising to use the newer style pump, along with maybe a Char-Lynne steering assist would possibly get the issue addressed,,,???? Dave Kamp also has a great application for tractor steering,,,all it takes is some hard work some shop time and some dollars,,,,, ![]() Edited by desertjoe - 14 Mar 2017 at 12:47pm |
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DougS ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 03 Nov 2011 Location: Iowa Points: 2490 |
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I've had it on both of my two recent cars. Apparently it costs a fortune to fix. I'd like to know the initial cost.
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Brian Jasper co. Ia ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Prairie City Ia Points: 10508 |
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An electric P/S system from a car probably wouldn't be a good choice for a loader tractor. On a hot day doing lots of turning in a parking lot is enough to put many systems in reduced assist to protect the motor. For something like plowing or haying I'll bet it would work well.
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