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    Posted: 15 Jan 2019 at 6:54pm
I know a while back that there was someone who had contacted me about making these.  We didn't know the correct size at the time, but I do now.  The correct size etc. from Jim Palmer Jr. ,,,,,,,,,

It is a round snap ring, .099” thick and fits on a .906 shaft


It is the eccentric pin snap ring.  It's for the pin that goes through the eccentric that you turn to lock and unlock the eccentrics so you can move the wheels out and in.

Anybody out there know how to make them, snap rings?  You could sell a chit pile of em if you made em.  I'd take a dozen myself..

Anybody out there know how to make them?  You could sell a chit pile of em if you made em.  I'd take a dozen myself..




Edited by Ted J - 16 Jan 2019 at 1:22am
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What snap rings? I have rebuilt many lift arm latches and have never seen any with snap rings.
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was thanking the same thing. matt;
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Ted J Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 Jan 2019 at 1:16am
SORRY guys, I was thinking of 2 different things and put em together and came up with the wrong thing...  How's the above sound....
It is the eccentric pin snap ring.
Sorry for the confusion.


Edited by Ted J - 16 Jan 2019 at 1:23am
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I have a big collection of old springs....I was able to find one with about the right diameter and wire thickness.
I carefully cut pieces off with my Dremel tool.
Not perfect but works.
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try 23mm snap ring !
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote polarbear Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 Jan 2019 at 3:01pm
About a year ago I was lucky enough to find 8 brand new ones at AGCO roughly $6 dollars apiece
have several used ones
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gee 50c ring for 6 BUCKS !!!
man I gotta start a mail orderbiz !!

I'm wondering if you could deepne the groove a bit to .875 aka 7/8" ?, 25c ring !

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Ted J Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Jan 2019 at 8:11am
Yes Jay, I inquired from my favorite AGCO parts man and they ARE available for the cost of $6.28  EACH.!!!
I'm doing some searching,,,,,, I'll be back.
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The fact that they are still available for a 60 year old tractor is impressive even at $6 each. Normally you would only replace the broke ones. Would only be expensive to do all of them.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Bill_MN Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Jan 2019 at 4:36pm
I just got a full set of them from Sandy Lake for around 7/each. Going to replace all when I put new rims/tires on and restore eccentrics, I figure a piece of spring steel that has never been removed and is nearly 70 years old is probably past its lifespan.


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 8 X $7. = $56.oo  , If I would be working on  a tractor for a customer $56.oo is less then one hour labor .   Would you not have more then a hour labor trying to come up with a cheap fix ,that in return cost that customer more money .  
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Ed (Ont) Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Jan 2019 at 12:46pm
Exactly right Fred. Spend money on fuel running around getting something that MAY work. LOL. Spend time cutting filing grinding!! Oops it broke lets start again and see if we can waste some more time. I am all for saving money and resources but you have to pick that battle carefully.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Mikez Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Jan 2019 at 12:59pm
Is there an allis part number. I'm curious if we have any laying around.
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I think that part number is 70223201. Description is 8-Ring,snap,eccentric pin.
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Maybe someone can take a pin into a store and see if a 23mm snapring fits ? For some reason my combine rims don't have pins ! 'Somewhere' I do have a can or two full of pins and bolts though....

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23 mm is 0.905509 inch
 
25 mm is 0.984249 inch
 
26 mm is 1.023619 inch


Edited by chaskaduo - 20 Jan 2019 at 3:08pm
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I worked it out to about $290 per pound of product. But if I needed it I would buy it. Running all over town looking for a cheap way out (or as some see it, a just way out) is expensive as I have found. When on one of those vision quests I usually end up asking myself if I regret getting into this mess, am I having fun yet?
I did buy them used (maybe Sandy Lake, or Matt?) they were cheap.

I have an AGCO parts question- Can you get anything from them cheap, do they sell any $0.85 parts? Do they seem to have a six dollar minimum on everything?  There is overhead of selling, putting in a bag with bar code, stocking, computer entry....
In this case if they gave you 4 in a bag for six bucks, it would seem OK.
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talk to Jeff or Dennis 618-336-5440
They will look for it through their dealer registry and a place called parts depot
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