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wjohn 
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 Posted: 11 Oct 2025 at 9:19am |
 Dennis J OPKs wrote:
I'm late to this discussion. There is what appears to be unrestored original All Crop on display at The National Ag Hall of Fame & Museum in Bonner Springs, KS... |
Dennis, thanks! I had no idea that museum existed. I haven't been up to the KC area in several years but I will have to check that out next time I get up that way.
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1939 B, 1940 B, 1941 WC, 1951 WD, 1952 CA, 1956 WD-45
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wjohn
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Posted: 11 Oct 2025 at 9:33am |
CrestonM wrote:
Unfortunately, it looks like your serial number is gone. It would be stamped on this angle iron piece in front of the bin. Looking at your machine, however, it's a 1937 model since it doesn't have the patched hole behind the cylinder where the original tailings recleaner grain return would've been on the 1935-1936 machines. The number you found by the cylinder, if that were a serial number, would place it as a mid-1936, which doesn't seem right, and the 7 in front throws me off as well. I'll check my machine again and see if it's got a number stamped in that location, but I don't recall seeing one there on the machines I've looked at. |
I was hoping you'd have time to get on the forum at some point! Yeah, we think the guy's uncle probably cut some angle iron out of it to use for some project 50 years ago. That's unfortunate about the serial number probably being lost.
I looked again the other day and the stamped number I took a picture of was actually forward of the cylinder, down on the angle iron that is the bottom LH side of the header. It was maybe 2' or so rearward from the tip of the header.
Yours is way nicer than mine. I need to find one like that and use mine for parts. Then I need a good old unstyled WC to match it.
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1939 B, 1940 B, 1941 WC, 1951 WD, 1952 CA, 1956 WD-45
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ecosse23
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Posted: 11 Oct 2025 at 5:17pm |
Dennis J OPKs wrote:
I'm late to this discussion. There is what appears to be unrestored original All Crop on display at The National Ag Hall of Fame & Museum in Bonner Springs, KS. I volunteer there & the place has been there 60 yrs. Anyway, here is the wording placard description. "In 1930, Californians Robert Fleming & Guy Hall demonstrated their combine in Kenosha County, Wisconsin. Harry Merritt, Allis Chalmers' chief engineer, paid them $25,000. for the rights to produce this smallest-ever combine. Distinguishing features of this "baby combine" were its small size, lightweight 'scoop shovel' front end and full width wire brush cylinder.Beginning in 1932, Allis Chalmers replaced wire brushes with rubber-covered angle bars that provided a resilient flailing action on the grain without chewing up the straw. Further adaption involved replacing link chain with rubber V-belts. The Model 60, debuting in 1932, weighed 2800 lbs, cut 5.5 ft. swath, and was mounted on pneumatic tires. The Model 60 could be pulled & powered with ease from the pto of a 2-plow tractor. In 1936, 8,000 Model 60's were sold for $595. each. In comparison, the Model 40 sold for $345. when it first appeared on the market in 1938" I'm not sure of the origine of this item but might be able to find out. It's parked alongside of a cutaway Gleaner self-propelled donated by Gleaner back in the glory days. |
Slightly off-topic, but it occured to me that it's great that there's an All-Crop and a Gleaner in the museum as exhibits, but in the "Hall of Fame" you have McCormick, Deere and Case – but no-one from Allis-Chalmers. Would it be worth putting Harry Merritt forward, or maybe Curtis Baldwin?
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55allis
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Posted: 11 Oct 2025 at 5:19pm |
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If you made a trip over here I could pull those two combines out of the creek and I’d possibly sell an unstyled WC..
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1955 AC WD45 diesel with D262 repower, 1949 AC WD45
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CrestonM
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Posted: 8 hours 25 minutes ago at 10:59pm |
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I’ve been looking for parts machines myself, I’ve laid eyes on 5 of these early models here in Oklahoma, and unfortunately the one I posted the photo of is in the best shape out of all of them, the rest are either heavily modified, have nearly all the parts robbed off, and look like large trees fell across the separator bodies. And sadly one I know would’ve been good for parts was scrapped as I was hunting down the owner. But there are more out there, we just have to keep looking!
The one in the photo, when I was digging it out of a sand dune, I found the steel slats from the drapers lying in the bottom of the header. The man told me he assumed it ran when it was parked by his father in law back in the 1950s.
Edited by CrestonM - 8 hours 23 minutes ago at 11:01pm
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