Early D17 front hubs Vs 170

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   Can I put 170 6 bolt hubs on early D17  spindles? Do they use the same bearings, or does it take a different combination of cones and races?

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Eldon (WA) Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Spokane, WA Points: 7765	Post Options Post Reply Quote Eldon (WA) Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Early D17 front hubs Vs 170 Posted: 27 Mar 2012 at 11:28pm
	Can I put 170 6 bolt hubs on early D17 spindles? Do they use the same bearings, or does it take a different combination of cones and races?
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TexasAllis Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Silver Level Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Texas Points: 396	Post Options Post Reply Quote TexasAllis Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 28 Mar 2012 at 6:14am
	If memory serves you cant use the later 6 bolt hubs on an earlier tractor that had 5 bolt hubs.
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Brian G. NY Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: 12194 Points: 2259	Post Options Post Reply Quote Brian G. NY Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 28 Mar 2012 at 9:31am
	The inner bearing and race are larger on the 6 bolt hub but the outers are the same. I cannot tell you offhand whether or not the inner spindle diameter is the same.

Gary Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Access Joined: 13 Sep 2009 Location: Peterborough,On Points: 5899	Post Options Post Reply Quote Gary Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 28 Mar 2012 at 9:44am
	Doesn't someone have access to 'Allis Dealer Parts' books to compare P/N for spindles, hubs, and brgs. ? Gary

mattb Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 11 Jan 2011 Points: 348	Post Options Post Reply Quote mattb Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 28 Mar 2012 at 11:49am
	I had a late 6 bolt spindle on my 17. Changed it over to match the other 5 bolt. Had to measure spindle and race then order the right cones and cups to fit it. Go to a good bearing supply place they should be able to match them up.

Brian G. NY Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: 12194 Points: 2259	Post Options Post Reply Quote Brian G. NY Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 28 Mar 2012 at 12:17pm
	OK Gary, you shamed me into it! LOL The front spindle assembly (dual front wheels) for all the D-17s has the same part number. But........The Series 42001 and up tractors use a "spacer, bearing" along with this dual wheel spindle ass'y. The manual says "use 237725 & 237726". Why 2 numbers, I can't guess! I can only assume this spacer is to compensate for the larger inner bearing? The wide front tractor spindles have different part numbers for the later tractor. Can we assume the later WF spindle has a larger dia. for the inside bearing race? The A-C part numbers for the bearings are: Inner, for 5 bolt hubs: Cone: 0222214-9 (Timken #15250) Cup: 0209987-7 (Timken #15118) Inner, for 6 bolt hubs: Cone: 0209899-4 Cup: 0235089-0 Outer, For 5 & 6 bolt hubs: Cone: 0209926-5 (Timken #2720) Cup: 0209983-6 (Timken #2776) I know the Timken #s on only the bearing I have had to replace myself. Now, I ain't no typist, so you know this wasn't easy! LOL I'm pretty sure I got all the numbers correct, tho.