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    Posted: 06 Apr 2024 at 9:48pm
their was the ford pinto, chevrolet vega, amc pacer .  what did chrysler have?
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amc gremlin not pacer
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Chrysler mostly went to Mitsubishi for their earliest small cars. I think the first subcompact they offered for the US market was the "Colt", which was Mitsubishi manufactured.
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What about the Valiant?  Maybe that's too big.
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AMC made both the Gremlin and the Pacer. Drove a Pacer once. Like being in a bubble.
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Isnt it crazy mostly all manufactures went over there to pick up on technology- we couldnt do it over here ,,, WTF- cars , tractors etc,,  
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Originally posted by Dennis J OPKs Dennis J OPKs wrote:

What about the Valiant?  Maybe that's too big.


If I remember right the Valiant was a bigger car. Wasn't the Valiant what the Duster was made from?
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I had a Plymouth Arrow back in the day , believe it had a Mitsubishi engine. Little 4 cylinder hatch back . Fold down back seat with a hatchback. Every teenager should have one. Car was a piece of crap but was a lot of fun for me at the time
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i dont remember the colt being the same time frame as the pinto or vega  i think it came on the next wave of compacts 
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dodge_Colt

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Maybe a little later . Late 70s or early 80s. What was the little Dodge/Chrysler? Sporty little thing neat looking. Maybe even had a turbo version I think. Pretty popular.
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This one?
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No that's not it not as rounded body style more angular I can picture it but the name eludes me.
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All of the big 3 have slept with imports... Dodge had Mitsubishi, Chevy had isuzu, ford had mazda...Wink
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Challenger? That nameplate has been all over the spectrum with Dodge. Magnum is another that has.
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not really a Compact... but always liked the look of this !!
Like them all, but love the "B"s.
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I drove an old Gremi for years and for the money to buy and maintain it it was the less costly, most dependable and nicest driving car I ever had. Things like door and window controls were absolute junk but the drive train and engine were rock solid. You might get a spring or two stuck in your arse from the seat but by golly you'd get there. It even held up good rust wise
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My sister had a Gremmie. Decent car. Way better the the Dodge Omni she replaced it with. That POS left her stranded a few times. My aunt also had a Gremlin. A Levi model. Full denim interior. Has anyone seen the Hemi Gremie?
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I had a 70 AAR barracuda for a while back in 76. Bought at Tremont Auto Auction and replaced the lt. 1/4 panel, tail lamp panel, rear face bar, straightened the trunk floor, and rt. 1/4 quarter. Then refinished the car back in it's original silver w/matte black hood. Nice car for the day, but too hard on gas to drive routinely. 

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Late 70's Chrysler came out with the Dodge Omni / Plymouth Horizon.  First small car of their own that I can remember. Prior to that , it was the Dodge Dart / Plymouth Valiant with the virtually indestructible slant 6 225 engine.  Had a 75 Dart.  Loved it, engine lasted forever, car rusted out first.  Had about 200,000 when I finally had to get rid of it around 84 or 85.  Traded it for a Subaru Brat. 
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Neighbor had a Gremlin and It sure had gremlins. When it was only about 3 or 4 years old, he gave it to another neighbor who used the body for a (dirt) sportsman race car.

Of all the compacts listed, none were much to brag about!
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any one biuld a small block chevy vega  
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Little brother had a Gremlin with a small block in it.
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I think the early Omni's & Horizon's  were really VW's in disguise.  They had some sort of arrangement with VW, looked like a Rabbit.
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Originally posted by HudCo HudCo wrote:

any one biuld a small block chevy vega  

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Originally posted by ACinSC ACinSC wrote:

Little brother had a Gremlin with a small block in it.

Installed a 401 AMC into one that originally had a 304 AMC and it was a real runner. 


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codger,  may be a  amx?
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No, this was a Gremlin "X" we stuffed the 401 into. Three speed manual originally and it got a four speed. I want to say a 1972 car as it didn't have those grotesque front impact bumpers. Removed the engine from an Ambassador former police car and I want to say that was a 74. Good running engine for the time with a Comp Cams 268H and their lifters for a mild addition. Hard to keep tires on the back of that for some reason.

I had for a short time a 69 AMX w/390 AMC engine, and Borg-Warner T-10 transmission. It was a good strong engine too. No back seat as early true "AMX" Javelin cars were not offered with them.
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