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JC-WI 
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Posted: 19 Mar 2023 at 12:47pm |
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Are they a good tractor? Worth looking at?
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He who says there is no evil has already deceived himself
The truth is the truth, sugar coated or not. Trawler II says, "Remember that."
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cwhit
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Posted: 19 Mar 2023 at 12:56pm |
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SteveM C/IL
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Posted: 19 Mar 2023 at 1:37pm |
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I know nothing about them. If they have the solenoid trans controls with the Funk trans,I've heard unsettling stories about reliability and finding-fixing problems. Nothing wrong with the mechanicals just the electronics. Do your homework!
Edited by SteveM C/IL - 19 Mar 2023 at 1:38pm
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bigal121892
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Posted: 19 Mar 2023 at 2:24pm |
 SteveM C/IL wrote:
I know nothing about them. If they have the solenoid trans controls with the Funk trans,I've heard unsettling stories about reliability and finding-fixing problems. Nothing wrong with the mechanicals just the electronics. Do your homework! |
The 9100 series are a White tractor with a Deutz engine. We had one for a while, very easy on fuel, good torque, drive train is rock solid, over all a very good tractor. Just be sure and keep the engine clean, since they are air cooled, and proper air flow is vital.
What SteveM is talking about is a 9650/9655, which is a Deutz or Detroit Diesel, w/Funk transmission and a white rear end. Biggest problem with this series, is agco pretty much abandoned them, which was their biggest problem.
Edited by bigal121892 - 19 Mar 2023 at 2:35pm
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DrAllis
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Posted: 19 Mar 2023 at 2:33pm |
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They were fine and pretty rugged. BUT, if you had a big Allis-Chalmers with a Power Shift transmission, it was kind of a step backwards.
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Posted: 19 Mar 2023 at 7:01pm |
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I agree with the good Dr
We rented a 9170 one year
Ill take a 8070 any day
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Joe Goodwill
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Posted: 19 Mar 2023 at 7:14pm |
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Solid drivetrain, keep the heads clean. Some visibility and cab control placement but if the price is right they are reliable horsepower.
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DrAllis
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Posted: 19 Mar 2023 at 7:33pm |
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It was just a shame that the Deutz people scrapped the A-C 8000 chassis and cab and had to outsource a chassis/cab from White to stick their engine into.
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bigal121892
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Posted: 19 Mar 2023 at 8:02pm |
DrAllis wrote:
It was just a shame that the Deutz people scrapped the A-C 8000 chassis and cab and had to outsource a chassis/cab from White to stick their engine into. |
Well, you know what they say, "You can always tell a German, just can't him much".
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victoryallis
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Posted: 19 Mar 2023 at 8:43pm |
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I’ve seen enough headaches that it would have to be priced near salvage value before I’d consider it.
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JC-WI
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Posted: 20 Mar 2023 at 2:28am |
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Thanks fellas for the info, it has been on a lot for awhile, other than moved to mow where it sat last year.
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DrAllis
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Posted: 20 Mar 2023 at 6:34am |
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Be sure to notice upon a cold-start fire up, if there is ANY popping sound that comes from the engine. It may only do it 2 or 3 times and immediately go away. If so, that is a blown "head gasket" on one jug. I had one combine years ago that gave trouble and one 9650 tractor that did a similar thing. No trouble with dozens of other engines. Both of these operators could break an anvil with a small ball peen hammer.
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Posted: 20 Mar 2023 at 8:10am |
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U need to try it before u buy it and work it hard when it is hot outside to be sure tranny/engine tractor has no issues..... they are a solid tractor if looked after but a operator who is abusive and not willing to maintain the deutz engine meticulously should not buy this tractor as they need to be maintained properly and most people dont do that. Get the fwa version pulls like a freight train. not a good chore tractor ,best used for field work. when driving down hills be in direct. Whites powershift tranny is as good as or better than anyone elses of the time. they are 30 years old! i own two of them and would not trade them.......
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AllisandGleaner
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Posted: 20 Mar 2023 at 8:14pm |
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There is a lot of iron in them tractors I’ve got a 9130 I wouldn’t trade for a 4455 Deere everything’s built heavier. Keep the engine clean and don’t forget the over under when servicing them tractors will run forever.
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