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ozarkfarmer01 ![]() Bronze Level ![]() Joined: 15 Nov 2016 Location: Arkansas Points: 9 |
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I inherited a disc I'm attempting to return it to field condition. My dad traded for it as used around 1985. With the orange paint I thought it might be an Allis-Chalmers. There are no data plates or decals on the disc for identification.
Can anyone identify the make and possibly model? I couldn't upload the photos due to size. If someone would like to help me please send me an email address in the forum and I'll send a photo of the disc. Thanks. |
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Dmpaul89 ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 06 Mar 2013 Location: Edwardsville,IL Points: 1689 |
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if the image is over 2mb you have to either crop it or reduce quality. then when you upload it change the dimentions to 640x480 and it should work then
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ozarkfarmer01 ![]() Bronze Level ![]() Joined: 15 Nov 2016 Location: Arkansas Points: 9 |
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Thanks, Dmpaul89. Here's the photo. |
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DiyDave ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Gambrills, MD Points: 53254 |
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My guess, for now would be Case. AC's heavy ones didn't look much like that...
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Skyhighballoon(MO) ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Pilot Grove, MO Points: 3115 |
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That's an Allis-Chalmers KT disc. I have a 12 foot version. Very well made heavy disc. I just need more tractor than my 180 to really pull mine. Mike
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1981 Gleaner F2 Corn Plus w 13' flex
1968 Gleaner EIII w 10' & 330 1969 180 gas 1965 D17 S-IV gas 1963 D17 S-III gas 1956 WD45 gas NF PS 1956 All-Crop 66 Big Bin 303 wire baler, 716H, 712H mowers |
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dawntreader74 ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 28 Oct 2013 Location: Manteno Points: 1770 |
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if that disc was not cocked so much ' it will pull a heck of a lot better' even if it was in the ground deeper .
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Skyhighballoon(MO) ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Pilot Grove, MO Points: 3115 |
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That was a pic from the day it arrived on the farm. It was long ago adjusted to the least aggressive angle. I also run depth stops now on the cylinder and do manage with it in high 2nd with the 180. Mike
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1981 Gleaner F2 Corn Plus w 13' flex
1968 Gleaner EIII w 10' & 330 1969 180 gas 1965 D17 S-IV gas 1963 D17 S-III gas 1956 WD45 gas NF PS 1956 All-Crop 66 Big Bin 303 wire baler, 716H, 712H mowers |
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ozarkfarmer01 ![]() Bronze Level ![]() Joined: 15 Nov 2016 Location: Arkansas Points: 9 |
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Thanks, Skyhighballoon.
Yours appears in much better condition than mine. What horsepower is the 180? Any idea what years the KT was produced? ![]() |
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Skyhighballoon(MO) ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Pilot Grove, MO Points: 3115 |
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My 180 gas has 65 PTO HP. 185 at 75 HP would be better and a 190XT would be perfect if you wanted to sink it all the way in and use as a primary tillage disc.
I don't know when they were first made but they came from Oxnard in CA and not the normal tillage line built at LaPorte. According to Norm Swinford's book, the KT was still being built in 1981. It says a 12' KT with 32 blades weighed 3700 lbs and sold for about $6100 that year. Mike |
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1981 Gleaner F2 Corn Plus w 13' flex
1968 Gleaner EIII w 10' & 330 1969 180 gas 1965 D17 S-IV gas 1963 D17 S-III gas 1956 WD45 gas NF PS 1956 All-Crop 66 Big Bin 303 wire baler, 716H, 712H mowers |
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darrel in ND ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 22 Nov 2009 Location: Hebron, ND Points: 8688 |
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That's interesting. Never seen an allis disk of that model. Looks like one well built, heavy duty son of a gun. Darrel
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Allis dave ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 10 May 2012 Location: Northern IN Points: 2971 |
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I need one of those for my 185. Might actually do something to corn stalks instead of just roll them over like my light 14'
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LB0442 ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 27 Dec 2014 Location: Boise ID Points: 767 |
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We have a 2550 disk here is a shot of it. Yours does look smaller but real close.
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ozarkfarmer01 ![]() Bronze Level ![]() Joined: 15 Nov 2016 Location: Arkansas Points: 9 |
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Thanks for posting the photo and the brochure!
Looks like the 2550 was a newer version of the one I have. Here's another photo of mine. Note the flat stock rear cross member versus the channel iron on the 2550 and the bolted corners on the front cross member on mine versus welded on the 2550. ![]() |
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ozarkfarmer01 ![]() Bronze Level ![]() Joined: 15 Nov 2016 Location: Arkansas Points: 9 |
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I found this on an Internet search.
http://www.parsonsequipment.com/product/view/566/Allis_Chalmers_KT_Disk |
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ozarkfarmer01 ![]() Bronze Level ![]() Joined: 15 Nov 2016 Location: Arkansas Points: 9 |
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Thanks again for the info. What years were the Oxnard plant in operation?
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Don(MO) ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Bates City MO. Points: 6862 |
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3 WD45's with power steering,G,D15 fork lift,D19, W-Speed Patrol, "A" Gleaner with a 330 corn head,"66" combine,roto-baler, and lots of Snap Coupler implements to make them work for their keep.
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Allis dave ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 10 May 2012 Location: Northern IN Points: 2971 |
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Wow Don, I bet that's quite a load on the 'ol WD45. I like the newer style traction boost hitch. I have all the parts to convert mine to the old style snap coupler. I hooked it up and it took the whole field to turn and even more to backup! Just pull it form the drawbar for now.
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Skyhighballoon(MO) ![]() Orange Level ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Pilot Grove, MO Points: 3115 |
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Just so you all know, Don is messing with you. That disc in the pictures in front of his house is the same KT disc that moved to my farm years ago to find a new home. He wasn't feeding it right as can be seen, LOL. Mike
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1981 Gleaner F2 Corn Plus w 13' flex
1968 Gleaner EIII w 10' & 330 1969 180 gas 1965 D17 S-IV gas 1963 D17 S-III gas 1956 WD45 gas NF PS 1956 All-Crop 66 Big Bin 303 wire baler, 716H, 712H mowers |
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PaulB ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Rocky Ridge Md Points: 4928 |
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Anyone looking for the new style Traction Booster hitch, I have one available. I also have the chain and upper connectors for the old style |
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If it was fun to pull in LOW gear, I could have a John Deere.
Real pullers don't have speed limits. If you can't make it GO... make it SHINY |
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Allis dave ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 10 May 2012 Location: Northern IN Points: 2971 |
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Mike,
That's funny, I was getting ready to call his bluff on those lectures he gave us about not overworking our old WD45's! LOL Again, nice disk and I bet it does a little better job working under corn stalks. |
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Don(MO) ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Bates City MO. Points: 6862 |
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I knew Mike was going to post about this after I put the pic's on here. lmao
Yes I sold the disk to Mike and it's got a good home now. I found it in the back of a barn, it was dark inside and the owner said it was a 12' footer so I jumped on the price went home got on the old WD45 drove about ten miles and pulled it out in the sun light only to see it was way to heavy for my tractors, man that trip home was hard on both me and the tractor never tried 4th gear, after that trip I made the call to find a new home for that heavy a$$ed disk. I was at Mike's for one of his plow days when Rick has his D19 gas on this disk and it had all it needed back there. lol Edited by Don(MO) - 17 Nov 2016 at 9:16am |
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3 WD45's with power steering,G,D15 fork lift,D19, W-Speed Patrol, "A" Gleaner with a 330 corn head,"66" combine,roto-baler, and lots of Snap Coupler implements to make them work for their keep.
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Allis dave ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 10 May 2012 Location: Northern IN Points: 2971 |
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I bet it worked that D19. You found a good home for it.
Funny stuff. That's a long drive home in 3rd! |
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allis/cattle ![]() Silver Level ![]() Joined: 13 Mar 2014 Location: glenella mb.ca Points: 203 |
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I have a kt disc like that so does my brother in law his has the flat bar across the back and mine has Channel iron mine is a newer model. There a good disc but if you have stones stay below 5mph as they like to break the bearing hanger brackets. I've had mine 2 years now and have found if your ripping up a hay field it's best to break it up with a chisel plow first. I have pulled it with 930 case 190xt 7040 and a 4166 ihc the xt pulls it best
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