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SteveM C/IL 
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 Topic: Daylight saving time...forever!!
Posted: 28 Aug 2020 at 7:47am |
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Rick and Bubba made a great point this am. With the crazy year 2020 already this would be the perfect time to make DST the standard....quit changing the clock....nobody would even notice!!
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Andy E
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Posted: 28 Aug 2020 at 7:53am |
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I AGREE.
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Posted: 28 Aug 2020 at 8:49am |
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good point. a large percentage of those still working are working at home, with a little less ridged schedule, the rioters don't start work until later in the day and knock after dark anyhow, the free cheezers.....well I doubt they have much of a schedule...so ya, I doubt anyone would notice
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Posted: 28 Aug 2020 at 10:01am |
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I think it is an excellent idea, ya got my vote... ... ... for what it is worth.
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Posted: 28 Aug 2020 at 10:47am |
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If we're going to pick one and stick with it, I pick DST. Fits much better trying to work and farm.
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Posted: 28 Aug 2020 at 12:39pm |
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I'll vote for that also.
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Posted: 28 Aug 2020 at 10:42pm |
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I wish we could stay on standard time year ‘round.
Here in west TX, it is still dark at 6:30 in the morning.
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Posted: 29 Aug 2020 at 12:20am |
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DST is my vote
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Posted: 29 Aug 2020 at 8:21am |
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sigh...I'm already tired of getting up in the dark.... 6AM and pitch black, not that I have to get up as I have nuthin to do next door anymore....
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Posted: 29 Aug 2020 at 5:29pm |
Year round standard time for me. Steve
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Posted: 31 Aug 2020 at 6:59pm |
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Year around standard time for me as well--Like to get up with the sun and go to bed at dark. On the Eastern edge of Central Time Zone.d R. Musgrave
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Posted: 31 Aug 2020 at 7:24pm |
The 'powers to be' have changed dates for DST at least 3 times that I know of since the early 70s.... ..so the 3 strikes and yer out rule should apply. STICK with one or the other, FOREVER ! yeesh the rest of the Animal Kingdom gets along without setting their clocks ahead,back, forward,.....sigh...
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Posted: 31 Aug 2020 at 9:04pm |
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Posted: 01 Sep 2020 at 5:13pm |
 Ted J wrote:
Anybody on Twitter? Twit the Prez and tell him to JUST DO IT.
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LMAO !!!!!!
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Posted: 01 Sep 2020 at 9:20pm |
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I dont need a watch... retired and and on my schedule.. dont care what time the Govt says it is. ...... really dont care what day of the week it is either !!
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Posted: 02 Sep 2020 at 7:42am |
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If I only farmed, or only worked off farm, I wouldn't care. Since I'm trying to do both, and since my off farm job is more/less scheduled, it's nice to have all the daylight I can get after work to do farm stuff.
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Posted: 02 Sep 2020 at 8:02am |
Seems they tried having daylight time one winter but it was to dark in the am and school kids were getting into to many accidents. 1974
The year Daylight Saving Time went too far
The 7 a.m. darkness in the last days before springing forward put us
in mind of a historical footnote: the year of unending Daylight Saving
Time.
Or at least that was how it was supposed to be.
It was 1974, and the energy crisis was cutting into the American way
of life, with odd-even gas rationing, a national speed limit and
shortened Nascar races. The Emergency Daylight Saving Time Act signed by
President Nixon dictated that clocks would spring forward one hour on
Jan. 6 — and stay that way for almost 16 months, until April 27, 1975. By fall, the dark mornings were apparently wearing on the American
people. Proclaiming “it’s for the children” — those scholars standing at
bus stops in the predawn — lawmakers threw in the towel of gloom.
Year-round DST was scrapped, and on Oct. 27, clocks fell back.
But there’s no way to stop the Earth from tilting, and — in 1974 as
in all years — most of the morning daylight gain was gone within weeks.
The 1974 experiment was but one of the federal revisions of Daylight Saving Time in the past 50 years.
- 1966: To standardize practices across the United States (with a few
exceptions), it was declared that DST would run from the last Sunday in
April to the last Sunday in October.
- 1986: The start date was moved to the first Sunday in April.
- 2007: DST was extended on both ends, and it now runs from the second Sunday in March to the first Sunday in November.
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Posted: 02 Sep 2020 at 8:05am |
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I set the schedule for my crew. Depends on time of year, temp, weather and the specific job. Leave it one way or the other is my vote. Don’t care which
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Posted: 02 Sep 2020 at 9:25am |
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Where a person is situated within their time zone makes a big difference. Take a look at the eastern line of the Eastern Time Zone, and picture yourself living on the coast of Maine! Been there at the tail end of November many years ago. Was DARK by like 3:30 in the afternoon!
Trivia question: What city is farthest east of the following 3; Miami, Charlotte, NC, Pittsburgh. Surprise number 1, they are all quite close as far as longitude. Surprise number 2 perhaps, the winner, is Pittsburgh!
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Posted: 02 Sep 2020 at 10:06am |
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Your location does make a difference. Here in central IL DST fits well. I was in N Dakota several yrs ago in middle of June. Was going on 10pm when it got dark. That was wild. Here it's about 9pm when that happens. Maybe just keep it screwed up like it is and let everyone complain all the time.
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Posted: 02 Sep 2020 at 10:38am |
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Steve, rest assured, everyone will complain all the time regardless.
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Posted: 02 Sep 2020 at 7:38pm |
SteveM C/IL wrote:
Your location does make a difference. Here in central IL DST fits well. I was in N Dakota several yrs ago in middle of June. Was going on 10pm when it got dark. That was wild. Here it's about 9pm when that happens. Maybe just keep it screwed up like it is and let everyone complain all the time.
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But what time ZONE are you in ?? It doesn't get dark "here" in late June/early July until 10 pm or a little later in our DLST/EST (  ). That's what I wish would get moved, Mi into the CST zone  .
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Posted: 03 Sep 2020 at 6:45am |
FREEDGUY wrote:
SteveM C/IL wrote:
Your location does make a difference. Here in central IL DST fits well. I was in N Dakota several yrs ago in middle of June. Was going on 10pm when it got dark. That was wild. Here it's about 9pm when that happens. Maybe just keep it screwed up like it is and let everyone complain all the time.
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But what time ZONE are you in ?? It doesn't get dark "here" in late June/early July until 10 pm or a little later in our DLST/EST ( ). That's what I wish would get moved, Mi into the CST zone . |
NOOOOOOOO!  That would make April, September/October really tough for my farm life! 
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Posted: 03 Sep 2020 at 7:21pm |
Tbone, are you SURE that it would be "tough"?? In all honesty to "future" posters, WHERE is the "line" for EST and CST ?? I've been under the impression that EST ends at the Ohio/Pennsylvania line ?? That the ONLY reason that MI is on EST is due to Detroit auto manufactures from WAAAAAY back ??
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Posted: 03 Sep 2020 at 7:51pm |
I dont think Detroit decided the time zones.... You can see that MICHIGAN is on the far WEST end and MAINE is on the EAST end.... You get the same effect if you are in Chitcago compared to Omaha... etc ... LOCATION is everything..
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Posted: 03 Sep 2020 at 8:10pm |
Thanks Steve, but if a person drew a straight line from the Florida pan handle due north, not much of MI would be in EST ?? Nor a good portion of Ohio ??
Kentucky is the real LOSER in the map you pictured 
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Posted: 03 Sep 2020 at 9:28pm |
The lines dont go due north.. There are 360 degrees in a circle around the earth.. Divided by 24 hours in a day and each time zone should be 15 degrees wide.... Should be wider at the equator than it is at the north pole.... ... look at 87 - 102- 117 degrees... its close.
It was the Rail Road that got this TIME ZONE stuff started around 1900 so they could get times standardized across the country... There has been DAYLIGHT time since 1920.. Cancelled for a few years, then started again...
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Posted: 03 Sep 2020 at 9:36pm |
Well, now you've changed the map  , where's the time zone lines in your latest map ?? I appreciate the maps, don't get me wrong . And to follow your last map, the farther NORTH you go, the closer the lines get, meaning that the majority of MI does fall into the CST zone in your earlier map .
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Posted: 04 Sep 2020 at 8:47am |
FREEDGUY wrote:
Well, now you've changed the map , where's the time zone lines in your latest map ??I appreciate the maps, don't get me wrong . And to follow your last map, the farther NORTH you go, the closer the lines get, meaning that the majority of MI does fall into the CST zone in your earlier map .
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If you overlay the two maps, you'd be surprise how "northerly" the line is. Due north is along the longitude. Steve's first map is a typical "flat map illusion", look at a globe, and you'll be a little more surprised.
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Posted: 04 Sep 2020 at 8:53am |
FREEDGUY wrote:
Tbone, are you SURE that it would be "tough"?? In all honesty to "future" posters, WHERE is the "line" for EST and CST ?? I've been under the impression that EST ends at the Ohio/Pennsylvania line ?? That the ONLY reason that MI is on EST is due to Detroit auto manufactures from WAAAAAY back ?? |
Yes, I'm sure. I work off farm. And I farm over 300 acres with over 30 momma cows calving 30+ calves in the spring, and raise my own replacement heifers and freezer beef. Also burn wood for heat. The off farm job is a set time of day, though they do treat me well and allow some flexibility at times as long as I don't abuse the privilege. As such, most of the time get home at a set time of day, and there's only so much daylight left after that. Lots of jobs, like cutting wood, vaccinating calves, combining soybeans....aren't too easy to do in the dark. Combining or chopping corn in the dark isn't too bad. Besides.....it's my opinion, my life, and stated with a laughy and winky face.....so shove it! 
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