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Jim liddle 
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 Topic: D2200 vs 433 engine
Posted: 29 Dec 2017 at 4:54pm |
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Will a 433 engine bolt in a HD4
I need a block so I just want to know what will work.
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orangeman
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Posted: 29 Dec 2017 at 6:21pm |
See Motorhoss video on you tube.
I think the 433 will bolt up directly, same as the D2200 block.
If you do this swap, I would be careful with the extra HP that the 433 T provides.
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Coke-in-MN
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Posted: 30 Dec 2017 at 9:00am |
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Was talking to guy years back that said he could get 85 HP from 2200 engine with turbo and pump work.
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Life lesson: If you’re being chased by a lion, you’re on a horse, to the left of you is a giraffe and on the right is a unicorn, what do you do? You stop drinking and get off the carousel.
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orangeman
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Posted: 30 Dec 2017 at 9:19am |
The HP in either a 433 T or 433 TI would easily exceed the design capacity of the final drive for the H4, HD4 or the 650 series machines even though the will bolt up and replace the D2200 Non Turbo Engine.
A recommendation would be to replace or overhaul the D2200 engine and use the machine within its intended (light industrial) design capacity (i.e. topsoiling, backfilling and some light excavation).
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Jim liddle
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Posted: 30 Dec 2017 at 10:07am |
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I am not looking for more power
I need a block. The block I have
Has a nasty repair on it.
I could probably load it up with
JB weld and rebuild it but, that's only if I can't find replacement
Block or engine. I know there are running engines for sale but, the ones I have looked into are way out of my price range. So if I were
To get a 433 block could I swap the parts from my d2200 into the
433 block?
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Ages Cat
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Posted: 30 Dec 2017 at 4:11pm |
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Talk to Kevin At Illinni Parts. He advertises here periodically. He sells AC, Iveco, etc. engine parts. He should be able to advise you. Many of these engines were also used in combines as well.
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Curt Anderson
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Posted: 30 Dec 2017 at 4:29pm |
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I have found out that a lot of parts for a 190/180 will interchange on the d2200, There also a place in versailes Missouri called Zimmermans. Big salvage yard of dozers run by a minonite family. There not cheap but the last time I was there they had a couple of h4s. Google them on the net.
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Coke-in-MN
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Posted: 30 Dec 2017 at 4:41pm |
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the 2200 was used in cotton pickers, fork trucks and industrial machines - the block itself can be either gas or diesel as both the same in many ways .
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Posted: 31 Dec 2017 at 12:40am |
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I think I have a good 2200 block. Give me a call at 304-613-1360
thanks Jim.
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