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ChuckLuedtkeSEWI 
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 Topic: D19 is back together, power steering question
Posted: 24 Dec 2011 at 9:39am |
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Finally got some time this morning to get the rest of the sheetmetal back on the D19 after spliting it for the clutch job. Found a few things along the way that I fixed as well. One of them was that the one of the power steering lines was bent up and rubbed on the generator pulley and made a small hole leaking out all of the power steering fluid. This must have been done a long time ago way before I got the tractor, so who knows how long the pump was running dry. I brazed the hole shut before I put the radiator shroud back on. My question is, is it possible to rebuild the power steering pump? And is there a kit out there to do it. I drove it around this morning and besides not having much for brakes which is also on the list, there seems to be little to no power steering. It doesn't steer hard, but steers alot like my 45 diesel which has no power steering on it, so I don't think the pump is doing anything. I have had it running for sometime so I'm sure the system is bled out, or do I have to take the one plug out by the pump and run fluid down from there to get it primed back up again. I guess I could pull the pump off and tear it down, but I would like to know what I'm getting into before I do it.
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1955 WD45 diesel 203322 was my dad's tractor, 1966 D15 23530, 1961 HD3 Crawler 1918, 1966 D17 IV 83495, 1937 WC 41255, 1962 D19 6221
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darrel in ND
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Posted: 25 Dec 2011 at 8:23am |
I can't offer much help to you by way of rebuilding the ps pump, but I think I would try it for a while longer, see if it gets better. Maybe put a little marvel mystery oil in it or something like that. Just my 2 cents worth. Good luck to you with it. You gotta love a D19! Darrel
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KenBWisc
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Posted: 25 Dec 2011 at 8:31am |
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Chuck, When I got my D-19 I had a similar issue. When I put fluid in the system it pumped out of the puimp seals almost as fast as I oculd pour it in. The shaft was scored and the impellers had been damaged. I price used (had same sidewise shaft movement as mine) and new, very expensive.
Took it in to my friendly engine machine shop. They ready-sleeved the shaft, matched up the seals and told me not to worry about he buggered up impellors. $125 latter I had powers teering. Sure did beat $800-1200. Your situation may be different. Merry Christmas!!
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ChuckLuedtkeSEWI
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Posted: 25 Dec 2011 at 11:06am |
thanks for the help guys. Who knows how long it ran with the hole in the line and the pump being dry so anything is possible. I have to go over the generator anyways so while that's off, I might just pull the power steering pump and yank it apart and take a look. Can't break something that's not working anyways, right.
Do the impellers slide in and out like vanes, like other pumps? wondering if they're stuck in there because of the combination of the tractor sitting for awhile, and the pump running try. Maybe all I need to do is free them up, or like Darrel said put some marvel mystery oil in there and letting things get loosened up.
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1955 WD45 diesel 203322 was my dad's tractor, 1966 D15 23530, 1961 HD3 Crawler 1918, 1966 D17 IV 83495, 1937 WC 41255, 1962 D19 6221
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Posted: 25 Dec 2011 at 12:07pm |
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Does it have oil in the reservior? Pump might be worn enough that it won't pull a prime. Might try pouring some oil into the intake tube and get it wet then try it. It might just start flowing if it isn't damaged too much.
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darrel in ND
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Posted: 25 Dec 2011 at 6:08pm |
Chuck, maybe you are having second thoughts about having sold me that D19 generator a few years back, huh! It's still sitting on my shelf. Darrel
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Brian Jasper co. Ia
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Posted: 25 Dec 2011 at 11:06pm |
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Chuck, is your p/s pump on the back of the generator like my D17D? Norm's Toys Norm has new coupler sleeves for the gen shaft to pump. Might be the coupler splines are worn and stripped. It worked out that I needed a new armature in my gen cause the splines were nearly gone. Could be your pump to gen coupler is worn out.
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ChuckLuedtkeSEWI
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Posted: 26 Dec 2011 at 6:22am |
No Brian, the pump has it's own pulley and location.
Darrel, that's ok. Seems like everytime I sell something I need it again later. I think this generator is ok, the wiring harness is kind of a mess. I haven't had the chance to test the genny yet. Will do that maybe tonite.
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1955 WD45 diesel 203322 was my dad's tractor, 1966 D15 23530, 1961 HD3 Crawler 1918, 1966 D17 IV 83495, 1937 WC 41255, 1962 D19 6221
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Posted: 26 Dec 2011 at 7:57am |
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Pump veins are fixed like an engine oil pump.
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SteveM C/IL
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Posted: 26 Dec 2011 at 10:06am |
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Aren't they a gear pump like the WD45?
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