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Posted: 04 Oct 2021 at 10:54am |
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I need some help and direction from here. My one sister came over this weekend and brought her son along and I got the D19 out and took him on a short tractor ride down the lane and back to the barn. Didn't set any speed records, just putted alone. Got back up by the barn and idled it down, shoved the clutch in and took it out of gear and let the clutch back out. As he was getting down, it just died, which is nothing new to me at a low idle. I started it back up and put in 2nd and let out the clutch and it started bogging the motor down. So I shoved the clutch back in and took it out of gear and let out on the clutch again and it bogged the motor down again. I even put the power director in neutral and it was still bogging the motor down. I shut it off and got down while it was out of gear and I was able to move the tractor. I put it in 2nd using the clutch and couldn't move it. I did that with all of the gears and couldn't move it by hand, but could once it was in neutral. I let it sit for about and hour and went and checked transmission and hydraulic fluids and both were full and clear enough to read the dipstick through the oil. I'm not quite sure where to start looking at to trouble shoot it. Any help pointing me in the right direction will be greatly appreciated. Thanks
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DrAllis
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Posted: 04 Oct 2021 at 2:03pm |
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If it pulls the engine down whenever you release the foot clutch, the problem is in the torque housing. Hydraulic pump or all the gears to the PTO and Power Director low range. If everything is FULL of oil, including the dipstick to the LEFT of the gearshift, I don't know what has happened, but whatever it is, it's inside the torque housing.
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Posted: 04 Oct 2021 at 3:36pm |
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and it runs OK at HI IDLE with the clutch in ? Dont have an air bubble in the fuel line ?
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Posted: 04 Oct 2021 at 4:13pm |
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Yes, every time I release the foot clutch it pulls the engine down and everything is full of oil, including to the left of the gearshift. It runs great at hi idle as long as you have the foot clutch shoved in.
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Posted: 04 Oct 2021 at 5:46pm |
Aint got it shifted into 2 gears, at once, do ya? 
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Posted: 04 Oct 2021 at 9:19pm |
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Sounds like hydraulic pump is trying to pump all the time. Make sure all lift levers are in nutual and traction booster linkage is free. MACK
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Posted: 05 Oct 2021 at 5:51am |
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I'll check to make sure that it isn't in 2 gears at once. All of the levers are in the neutral position and it still pulls the engine down, but I will check to make sure that the traction booster linkage is free also. Thanks
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Posted: 05 Oct 2021 at 6:43am |
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Like others have said it could be hung up in gear . My series 1 D 15 did that . It was second gear also . Good luck ! Read your post again and I see your D 19 moves in neutral. My D 15 would not , so I don't know ?
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Brian Jasper co. Ia
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Posted: 05 Oct 2021 at 4:46pm |
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With the power director in neutral, it can’t be the transmission being in 2 gears at once and stall the engine. The reduction gears for the power director could have something jammed in the teeth or something with the hydraulic pump although I’d expect it to bend or break the roller followers on the pump before stalling the engine.
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Posted: 05 Oct 2021 at 8:21pm |
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Does it stall the engine or just pull it down? MACK
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Posted: 06 Oct 2021 at 6:18am |
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I pulled the transmission cover to see if it was is two gears at once and it wasn't and the gears looked good too. The forks look good to. I made sure that the levers were in the neutral position and they are. When I let out on the clutch it starts to pull the engine down to the point that it is going to stall out, but before it gets to that point, I don't want to break anything else, I shove the clutch back in and the engine comes right back up.
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Posted: 06 Oct 2021 at 6:35am |
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You obviously cannot use it anymore, so drag it to where you can fix it or have someone else fix it if you are so inclined. If it was mine, I'd drain the oil from the torque hsg (2 drain plugs) into 2 clean buckets and carefully look over the oil for signs of ground up iron. The front drain plug is the hydraulic pump compartment and maybe you'll see iron flakes from there, indicating that is where the problem is. Same goes for the lower rear drain plug, which would be for the intermediate and PTO gears and bearings. Maybe you'll be lucky and it's the hydraulic pump, but I don't think so. Don't keep trying to make things "go" with the engine. Your damage will only get more expensive.
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Posted: 06 Oct 2021 at 6:04pm |
You don't have a hyd lever stuck all the way open or closed, do you? If so, you could be dead heading the pump, and that WILL bog it down...
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Posted: 07 Oct 2021 at 6:22am |
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Don't forget the PTO. go back there and check to see if it moves in neutral.
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Posted: 07 Oct 2021 at 9:16am |
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I went and got some clean 5 gallon buckets and drained the hydraulic compartment (front plug) in one bucket and the intermediate and PTO gears and bearings compartment (lower rear plug) in the other. I strained the oil while it was draining through a kitchen strainer for both of them and did find some metal flaks that came out of the front plug. Going to get a magnet and put it in each bucket and see what I can get anymore flaks. I did make sure that all hydraulic levers were not stuck open or close. I engaged the PTO and it did not turn when I let off the clutch. Will check to make sure that it turns freely when it is not engaged.
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