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Mikez 
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Posted: 26 Jun 2023 at 8:07pm |
Hello does anyone have original seat with the Allis Chalmers decal on back. We bought new seat and would like to try to place decal in proper place. Thank you
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DrAllis
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Posted: 26 Jun 2023 at 8:34pm |
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Which seat? cream color pan or black ??
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Posted: 26 Jun 2023 at 8:35pm |
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Sorry don't have, but remember seeing the decal on seat in a D15 or 17 sales brochure or something. Hopefully someone on here has a picture from brochure or book and will share it.
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Posted: 26 Jun 2023 at 8:50pm |
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Yes sorry the cream
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Travis2766
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Posted: 26 Jun 2023 at 9:42pm |
Picture of my d17 IV from the back, black pan seat but you can zoom in and see the location of the decal. 
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Posted: 26 Jun 2023 at 9:54pm |
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Different decal for cream seat. The "Allis-Chalmers" decal is positioned half-way between the top edge of the seat pan and the cross ways slot below.
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Posted: 27 Jun 2023 at 5:48am |
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If you find someone that is good with a Cricut, they should be able to reproduce it for you.
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Mikez
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Posted: 27 Jun 2023 at 8:26am |
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Well I guess I didn’t realize there was a difference. We just picked up a new seat at a show few weeks ago. New seat is cream frame. I got the decal per the part number from parts book and it’s like the one above in picture on black frame.
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Posted: 27 Jun 2023 at 8:44am |
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Maple Hunter has the decal for the cream seat.
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Posted: 27 Jun 2023 at 8:46am |
 Is this the right one?
Edited by Travis2766 - 27 Jun 2023 at 8:47am
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Posted: 27 Jun 2023 at 8:49am |
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That's (I think) the only one I've ever seen on the cream seat pan. This would be prior to the logo change, which happened with the black seat pan in 1965/66 ??
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Posted: 27 Jun 2023 at 9:01am |
Ok thanks. Our 17 is 78307 1965. What about D15ll. Sr 20668 1965
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Posted: 27 Jun 2023 at 9:07am |
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The “New” logo was introduced in ‘65
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Posted: 27 Jun 2023 at 3:38pm |
 Travis2766 wrote:
The “New” logo was introduced in ‘65 |
Very late in 1965 actually. A change promoted for the 1966 model year. My neighbor had a late 1965 D17 IV with the sunburst emblems on it (not repainted).
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Posted: 28 Jun 2023 at 9:15am |
Hi Mikez
Here is a D17IV (1966) for sale on Tractorhouse with a cream back seat. Seat frame back might be original, but the padded cover looks like a very well done custom job. Tractor looks to be in very good shape
Hope this helps
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Posted: 28 Jun 2023 at 9:33am |
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Wow that one has snap coupler
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Posted: 28 Jun 2023 at 10:19am |
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That's only about an hour from me. If I hadn'tbought a really nice SIII 2 years ago I'd be interested. Low price so far except for the missing drawbard and lift work.
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Posted: 28 Jun 2023 at 11:21am |
Mikez wrote:
Wow that one has snap coupler |
Is a snap coupler on the series IV something that’s rare? Just curious because my series IV has a snap coupler (wish it wasn’t).
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Posted: 28 Jun 2023 at 11:31am |
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I'm going to guess 50/50 snap-coupler versus 3-point on series 4 tractors.
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Posted: 29 Jun 2023 at 10:56pm |
One of my customers and myself have done extensive research on seats and
decals. Our conclusions are:
When the deluxe/padded seat came out in 1961 it had the 338338 decal on
the back. All had creme pans. This decal was used up to sept 1964.
https://awtractor.com/product/allis-chalmers-lettering-seat-back-foil-decal-338338/
October 1964 or before the decal was changed to the diamond sawtooth
design part #923383, per 190 parts book dated 10/64. 923383 was used
till at least Sept 1965. We are working on getting these decals made. 
The first documented use we have of the corporate reflective decal
924273 is D15 #21197, (December 1965) on a creme pan. D15 #21636 (Feb 1966) also had 924273 on creme pan as well as D17 #83330 (June 1966). 924244 is NOT the correct decal, it
has a white background, not grey reflective like the original one:
https://awtractor.com/product/allis-chalmers-corporate-logo-seat-back-decal-924273/ The 924273 corporate A decal was used on creme seat pans for a while until the pans changed to black at unknown date in 1966.
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