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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Rick Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Oct 2015 at 8:57pm
Yeah, but when the sediment bowl screen doesn't catch all the crap, then you CAN install an inline fuel filter on a WD45. I've used them for years with no ill effects of any kind and they've always ran like a raped ape! I still have one on the WD45 that I have now...no problem there.  Rick
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Cheap ether isn't hardly worth crap... bought a case and you could spray thatrstuff like there was no tomorrow and then grabbed a differentcan and just a puff of spray did the job.
 the screen was brobably a plastic screen, and between the diameter perimeter of screen may be bigger and the thickness of the plastic not allowing the screen to lay down in glass bowl lip, was what made it leak... the old screens were made of brass and the rims were thin thus allowing the glass bowl to seal against the gasket.  Just some more of that stupid modern day "re-engineering that don't work right because it wasn't done right.
  if your tank has a rust issue and crud in it, roll a fine screen and put in inlet of sediment bowl body. couple inches high with the top crimped over. in line car filter will plug fast if you have lots of fine particles floating. then you have to either reeplace of blow them out backwards...and usually happens out in the field.. and the taste isn't real desirable.
 Maybe this will help in the carb dilemma.
 
 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote TomYaz Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Oct 2015 at 12:24am
Originally posted by DiyDave DiyDave wrote:

You can run an inline filter, but why?  You already have a filter that works fine...

Got a new screen, bowl,gasket. Couldnt get it to seal. Didnt work fine for me.
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Originally posted by john(MI) john(MI) wrote:

If you tried ether and it didn't start then there is something wrong with the spark.  I had a similar problem with my D14 and new points and condensor took care of it.

The ether was igniting. smoke-fire observed.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote DiyDave Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Oct 2015 at 5:14am
Originally posted by TomYaz TomYaz wrote:

Originally posted by DiyDave DiyDave wrote:

You can run an inline filter, but why?  You already have a filter that works fine...

Got a new screen, bowl,gasket. Couldnt get it to seal. Didnt work fine for me.

Sometimes the bail stretches or the pot metal that the sediment bowl base attaches to gets warped, from heavy handed tightening...
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Rick Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Oct 2015 at 5:28am
I have a brother who is a "heavy handed tightener"...so-to-speak! He uses a pair of pliers or whatever he can get his hands on to tighten up the bowl! I always tell him..."that's why they call it a thumb screw"! LMAO! Hard headed redneck!   LOL   Rick
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an old combine we had had a needle in the carb, if it sat for over 3-4 days, we'd hafta take that needle out and work it up and down, it was spring loaded, but would stick. that allowed it to start and run fine after doing that.
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I doubt it's ethanol in the gas.  My WC sits for months on end with E10 in it and it'll fire third pull every time.  Same with my B110 and B10.  Sit for months with E10 in them and they fire right off. 

Back to the basics.  Make sure it's static timed right ( plugs on right wires), make sure the bowl has gas, you already checked the vacuum.  All it needs is air, fuel, and fire at the right time.  I assume it ran after the engine work?
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Originally posted by AaronSEIA AaronSEIA wrote:

I doubt it's ethanol in the gas.  My WC sits for months on end with E10 in it and it'll fire third pull every time.  Same with my B110 and B10.  Sit for months with E10 in them and they fire right off. 

Back to the basics.  Make sure it's static timed right ( plugs on right wires), make sure the bowl has gas, you already checked the vacuum.  All it needs is air, fuel, and fire at the right time.  I assume it ran after the engine work?
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Yes, ran great when brought home - better than ever with new plugs, new head, rebuilt car. Unloaded it, parked it in shed and never ran it till now.  Has to be crap in the carb. 
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Remove the carb. Open the fuel shut-off under the fuel tank and let a bit of fuel run freely. If you are afraid to open the carb yourself take it to whomever rebuilt your tractor and have them look at the carb.
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Again, I will post this link for anyone who wishes to probe the internals of their TSX carb.
 
 
I have a Zenith, so won't comment more.
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The prior owner of my D-17 had had the head done and put on a real nice looking used intake manifold with all new gaskets. He could never get it to run on but 2 cylinders.
The day I bought it, I installed new plugs which did not help.
When he told me he had put on a used manifold, I shot some carb cleaner around the intake ports while turning over the engine with the starter....fired right up!
Took the manifold off and used a BIG file to level off all the ports on the manifold and put it back together. Been running great ever since. 
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Puffing black smoke. Sounds like the engine is flooded to me. I would put every thing back together and find some one with a tractor or pick up truck, turn the gas off and pull the tractor for a bit then open the gas petcock back up and pull it some more should start.
Get that engine rolling a few RPM's more that the starter can.

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Originally posted by john(MI) john(MI) wrote:

If you tried ether and it didn't start then there is something wrong with the spark.  I had a similar problem with my D14 and new points and condensor took care of it.
 
Well I guess you win the prize. SLI sent a guy out. It was the distributor cap. Center point worn.  But I know I had *some* spark else there would have been no ether flame/smoke out the stack... Boy I really HATE these aggravating issues...What a time waste this was...
at least it wont be tooo expensive.
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