D17 S-IV water pump

Hi Dwyane!

Just before I left home on assignment (to West Texas, btw), my D17 Series 1 gasser decided to retire it's water pump seal.... (sigh)... I'd just finished fixing the back wheel on the bush-hog, and was cutting down the waist-high grass growing it the two-wet-to-mow ditch, when I felt a warm, sweet shower of ethylene glycol in my armpits. Seems things breakin' faster'n I can fix them... Unhappy

Several years ago, I had a half-dozen water pumps from several different machines, and rebuilt 'em all in my shop. One of those was from my WD (with 45 motor), and I THINK... (and I'm not all that great at thinkin') that the D17 pump might be not-same-as, but interchangeable between WD/45/17, your D262 (being of Buda lineage) might be same, or perhaps interchangable, but could be close-but-not interchangeable. Perhaps one of the others will chime in...

Regardless, these water pumps are simple... there's a unit bearing/shaft/seal assembly that has impeller pressed on one end, and the bearing assembly is usually lightly pressed, and sometimes retained with a snap-ring... then the fan hub presses on the other end. What I did, was dismantle all the pumps I had... bead-blasted all the housings clean, inspected 'em, then cleaned up all the bearing/seal assemblies well enough to either get part numbers or really good measurements, then ordered replacements from my local bearing shop.

Looks like I'm gonna be doing that again when I get back home, because the ditch is still way-too-wet for the ZTR to navigate. I'll write in the step-by-step, but last time (3 years or so ago) I tried, I was all out of picture-posting space, so I haven't posted new pictures on here since then. If the 226 gas engine pump will interchange with your diesel six, then my pump's shaft/bearing/seal kit parts might work for your pump.

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Sorry wrong PN. 74516962 is the one needed.

1970 190XT, 1973 200, 1962 D-19 Diesel, 1979 7010, 1957 WD45, 1950 WD, 1961 D17, Speed Patrol, D14, All crop 66 big bin, 180 diesel, 1970 170 diesel, FP80 forklift. Gleaner A

Late D-17 diesel has a different water pump than D-19's. Lower fan height. Been there.

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I know first hand that the D-17 IV diesel water pump is shorter than a 262 combine and I'm sure the D-19 but its been more than 10 years so not positive about the D-19

Nothing is impossible if it is properly financed

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Dwayne TX Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Texas Points: 210	Post Options Post Reply Quote Dwayne TX Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: D17 S-IV water pump Posted: 12 Jun 2019 at 10:16am
	Need to replace the pump & seeing several options. Can anyone recommend a source that has a quality part? It's a diesel. I think it's the original pump.

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DaveKamp Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 12 Apr 2010 Location: LeClaire, Ia Points: 3956	Post Options Post Reply Quote DaveKamp Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 12 Jun 2019 at 11:18am
	Hi Dwyane! Just before I left home on assignment (to West Texas, btw), my D17 Series 1 gasser decided to retire it's water pump seal.... (sigh)... I'd just finished fixing the back wheel on the bush-hog, and was cutting down the waist-high grass growing it the two-wet-to-mow ditch, when I felt a warm, sweet shower of ethylene glycol in my armpits. Seems things breakin' faster'n I can fix them... Several years ago, I had a half-dozen water pumps from several different machines, and rebuilt 'em all in my shop. One of those was from my WD (with 45 motor), and I THINK... (and I'm not all that great at thinkin') that the D17 pump might be not-same-as, but interchangeable between WD/45/17, your D262 (being of Buda lineage) might be same, or perhaps interchangable, but could be close-but-not interchangeable. Perhaps one of the others will chime in... Regardless, these water pumps are simple... there's a unit bearing/shaft/seal assembly that has impeller pressed on one end, and the bearing assembly is usually lightly pressed, and sometimes retained with a snap-ring... then the fan hub presses on the other end. What I did, was dismantle all the pumps I had... bead-blasted all the housings clean, inspected 'em, then cleaned up all the bearing/seal assemblies well enough to either get part numbers or really good measurements, then ordered replacements from my local bearing shop. Looks like I'm gonna be doing that again when I get back home, because the ditch is still way-too-wet for the ZTR to navigate. I'll write in the step-by-step, but last time (3 years or so ago) I tried, I was all out of picture-posting space, so I haven't posted new pictures on here since then. If the 226 gas engine pump will interchange with your diesel six, then my pump's shaft/bearing/seal kit parts might work for your pump.
	Ten Amendments, Ten Commandments, and one Golden Rule solve most every problem. Citrus hand-cleaner with Pumice does the rest.

Joe(TX) Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Weatherford. TX Points: 1006	Post Options Post Reply Quote Joe(TX) Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 12 Jun 2019 at 2:15pm
	WD and D17 gas water pumps are different than the later D17 diesels. 74516959 is the pump that fits the later D17 diesels and D19 gas or diesel. Not sure of a good source at this time. I will need one for a D17 series I diesel at some time when I get around to working on it. The repair kit is 74517279 if they are still available.
	1970 190XT, 1973 200, 1962 D-19 Diesel, 1979 7010, 1957 WD45, 1950 WD, 1961 D17, Speed Patrol, D14, All crop 66 big bin, 180 diesel, 1970 170 diesel, FP80 forklift. Gleaner A

Joe(TX) Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Weatherford. TX Points: 1006	Post Options Post Reply Quote Joe(TX) Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 12 Jun 2019 at 2:24pm
	Sorry wrong PN. 74516962 is the one needed.
	1970 190XT, 1973 200, 1962 D-19 Diesel, 1979 7010, 1957 WD45, 1950 WD, 1961 D17, Speed Patrol, D14, All crop 66 big bin, 180 diesel, 1970 170 diesel, FP80 forklift. Gleaner A

Don(MO) Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Bates City MO. Points: 6856	Post Options Post Reply Quote Don(MO) Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 12 Jun 2019 at 3:12pm
	Here you guys go. I get them from Tony, call him don't just look at his web site for your pump. http://www.tonystractors.com/
	3 WD45's with power steering,G,D15 fork lift,D19, W-Speed Patrol, "A" Gleaner with a 330 corn head,"66" combine,roto-baler, and lots of Snap Coupler implements to make them work for their keep.

Calvin Schmidt Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Ontario Can. Points: 4033	Post Options Post Reply Quote Calvin Schmidt Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 12 Jun 2019 at 3:57pm
	Late D-17 diesel has a different water pump than D-19's. Lower fan height. Been there.
	Nothing is impossible if it is properly financed

Joe(TX) Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Weatherford. TX Points: 1006	Post Options Post Reply Quote Joe(TX) Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 12 Jun 2019 at 4:54pm
	I got confused All D19 diesels used the 74516962 as did some years D17's. Long neck or short neck radiator is the difference. Series IV D17 diesels used the 74516959
	1970 190XT, 1973 200, 1962 D-19 Diesel, 1979 7010, 1957 WD45, 1950 WD, 1961 D17, Speed Patrol, D14, All crop 66 big bin, 180 diesel, 1970 170 diesel, FP80 forklift. Gleaner A

Calvin Schmidt Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Orange Level Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Ontario Can. Points: 4033	Post Options Post Reply Quote Calvin Schmidt Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 12 Jun 2019 at 8:22pm
	I know first hand that the D-17 IV diesel water pump is shorter than a 262 combine and I'm sure the D-19 but its been more than 10 years so not positive about the D-19
	Nothing is impossible if it is properly financed

Pfouts Family Farm Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Bronze Level Joined: 05 Dec 2018 Location: Hiram, Ohio Points: 20	Post Options Post Reply Quote Pfouts Family Farm Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 13 Jun 2019 at 8:56am
	The D17 series 4 diesel water pump should have casting number 134680 which was used serial #119938 and up and also for serial #117087-117104. The same pump as the WD45 Diesel was used prior to serial #119937 (except #117087-117104) with casting number 126627. I can supply either a rebuilt pump with exchange or a rebuild kit. Feel free to PM or call 330.569.7037