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HRRTim 
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Posted: 13 Jan 2017 at 9:36pm |
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This tractor sat for 5 years without starting. Found the pistons stuck, got them free and got the engine started. Idled the engine for 30 minutes and ran great, moved the tractor about 20 yards and the engine died. Can now start the engine with full choke but it won't stay running, it seems to run out of fuel. It is a gravity feed fuel gas motor, don't know how much gas should be flowing out of the tank. Fuel comes out at a steady to rapid drip, is this enough or do I have an obstruction somewhere.
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Krazy Karl
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Posted: 13 Jan 2017 at 10:02pm |
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Sounds like need a carb cleaning. Jets are probably plugged
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MACK
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Posted: 13 Jan 2017 at 10:07pm |
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I would start by cleaning tank and work my way through carburetor. MACK
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DSeries4
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Posted: 13 Jan 2017 at 10:26pm |
 MACK wrote:
I would start by cleaning tank and work my way through carburetor. MACK
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Ditto. If it has been sitting that long, I would clean out the whole system. Check the inside of the tank for rust as well.
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Gary in Texas
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Posted: 14 Jan 2017 at 4:52am |
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If you are measuring the fuel flow at the shut off vale under the tank, it should be full flow( about the size of a pencil) and not stop until the tank is almost empty.
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Gary Burnett
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Posted: 14 Jan 2017 at 7:21am |
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Am inline filter will be your friend after you get the gas flowing
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TimNearFortWorth
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Posted: 14 Jan 2017 at 7:32am |
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Consider putting a couple gallons minimum in the tank, then pull the entire bowl assembly and standpipe out of the tank and let her empty out. Temporarily plug tank bottom and rinse again with good gas if she is nasty and check out the screen on the standpipe as they stick up into the tank and can get plugged off over time limiting flow.
When I get water'ed up from rainy weather my D-Series gas units will act up even with semi regular use because today's gas needs looked after. I have had good luck removing the bowl to get rid of sediment and water, filling with Seafoam so the carb gets a good shot and filling her up with a good mid-grade gas. After that, start chasing the carb issues as it sounds like you likely have gummed up old gas. I no longer use "Sta-Bil" type treatments as found they can entirely plug off the standpipe and bowl shutoff valve with a red looking crud that will actually harden.
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HRRTim
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Posted: 14 Jan 2017 at 9:17am |
I don't have near that kind of stream of fuel exiting the tank, so I guess I will start by removing the bowl assembly on the bottom of the tank. Thanks for the input
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TimNearFortWorth
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Posted: 14 Jan 2017 at 9:26pm |
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You may have an older cap that is sealing too well on the tank, crack it open and see if flow improves. Newer caps have elastomer gasket where originals had a leather type gasket on the cap and they were good for venting as the material "flexed" over time, until the material finally gave up that kept them kind of snug.
Chased a fuel flow issue more than once on a D-Series after replacing the cap . . . .
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DSeries4
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Posted: 15 Jan 2017 at 9:19am |
Gary Burnett wrote:
Am inline filter will be your friend after you get the gas flowing
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Don't use an inline filter. It can restrict fuel flow. If you get the tank, sediment bowl/screen and carb cleaned, you won't have any problems.
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Gary Burnett
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Posted: 15 Jan 2017 at 1:03pm |
DSeries4 wrote:
Gary Burnett wrote:
Am inline filter will be your friend after you get the gas flowing
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Don't use an inline filter. It can restrict fuel flow. If you get the tank, sediment bowl/screen and carb cleaned, you won't have any problems.
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I use inline filters on all my gasoline tractors,if the fuel flow is restricted at the filter its either 1)Full of things from the tank or 2) Had water run thru it.Either way its better to be in the filter than in the carb.A sediment bowl screen will let plenty of stuff thru that'll clog up a carb. I use the clear filters amazing what will show up in them at times.
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