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    Posted: 07 Jul 2018 at 10:52pm
I am looking at purchasing a new tractor for pulling and doing hay on the farm. I am wondering what the weight of a stock d17 is compared to a stock d19? What is the top speed of both for road travel? What should I look for when buying this tractor? Thanks for your time
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Got both 19 would bmy choice for hay of the two if pulling it most clubs won't let a 19 pull due to turbo my choice would be spend the money and buy a 6080 for hay then find a 17 set it up to pull
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Tractor Data would have the specs for them.  D19 gas drinks fuel like no other from what I understand.  D17 is plenty of horse for hay unless you have real big hills or are putting a round baler behind it.  19 is quite a bit bigger.  I love my 17.
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What sort of hay operation? Small squares D17 would probably work depending on what you're using to cut your hay,large rounds
D19 would be the way to go.
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Shipping weight for a D-19 gas wide front with fluid in  standard rear tires was 7600 lbs.   D-17 series 4 gas was about 5700 lbs. Both with snap coupler hitch.  Older D-17's were around 5500 lbs.
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Are all d19 turbo? Gas and diesel?
Is there a horsepower difference between the d17 gas and d@7 diesel?
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D-19 diesel turbo. If you expect this tractor to work for a living and be dependable, do not buy a D-19 diesel.
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I have a D19 gas, and I D17 gas. Each of them have their place where they really shine. I guess that if I ever came do down having to choose between one or the other, I'd keep the D 19. Old adage that "you can do small jobs with a big tractor, but you can't do big jobs with a small tractor" is my thinking. I know it's been a little controversial topic, but I think that the D 19 is every bit as nimble as the 17. A couple examples of what I have done with my 19 that the 17 wouldn't be able to are pulling a 14 foot swing tongue mower conditioner and a big round baler. Things that the 17 work for such as raking and roto baling, the D 19 could also do. darrel
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I've heard the same thing about the d19 sucking gas, however checking tractor data it produces about the same number of horsepower per gallon as the d17. Could it be that the gas tank on the d19 wasn't sufficiently large needing to be refilled often giving the illusion of sucking gas? How big was the d19 gas tank?
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I used to drive my dad's d19 gas when i was a kid,and i believe the gas tank held 23 gallons. Yes,it used a lot of fuel,but we pulled a 5 bottom plow with it too.
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A fuel efficient 190XT diesel will do all those farm chores of a hay operation. It’s very nimble and can handle any of those pieces of equipment including a round baler. I like the D series as we have some, but the XT is a great all around tractor. Usually use the D-15 for raking which the D-17 would do well with. But if your looking for a one tractor do it all I would step up to a XT. Certainly not knocking a D17 or D19 as they are good tractors, just giving my opinion from a XT owner point of view especially if fuel efficiency is a factor.
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Well I'll throw my 2 cents worth in if you're wanting to stay with an older AC tractor I'd go with a 185 really good on a baler and other PTO equipment because of the hydraulically
engaged PTO and all around nimble tractor for its size.For me baling with a tractor that  has to be stopped and the PTO
mechanically engaged is aggravating after using one that can be engaged on the go.I use my 185 and Olivers 1650,1600, 1550 to bale with as the PTO on all those tractors can be engaged on the move smoothly.

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Originally posted by AaronSEIA AaronSEIA wrote:

Tractor Data would have the specs for them.  D19 gas drinks fuel like no other from what I understand. 
Try driving a 4020 gas.
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Originally posted by vyvyjim vyvyjim wrote:

I've heard the same thing about the d19 sucking gas, however checking tractor data it produces about the same number of horsepower per gallon as the d17. Could it be that the gas tank on the d19 wasn't sufficiently large needing to be refilled often giving the illusion of sucking gas? How big was the d19 gas tank?
D17 has 19 gallon tank and D19 has 25. Every big gas tractor sucks gas and IMO Deere was the worst. Doing light work, I'm sure a bigger heavier tractor like a D19 will take more fuel than the lighter D17. Doing heavy work, not so much difference.

I own both tractors and used to farm exclusively with them both back in the late 1980's and early 1990's and for doing tillage, even with matched equipment foe each tractor I'd take the D19 over the D17. For most small jobs I still like the D19 over the D17 although the D19 can be a little more clumsy at times and the hydraulics are the worst Allis ever built.

For me the D19 just could not get stuck in mud. I farmed an 80 acre farm that was very wet (never again!) and got stuck lots of times but almost every time, if I unhooked the disk or plow I was able to drive out. Dad's 190XT was done and finished and needed a pull when it got stuck in mud.

My old E Gleaner was another one that was nearly impossible to get stuck. Might not go straight ahead but ahead it would go. Man those were bad days, especially 1990, 1992 and my last year farming that wet ground, 1993. My best years there were the drought years of 1988 and 1989.


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Originally posted by Lonn Lonn wrote:

Originally posted by AaronSEIA AaronSEIA wrote:

Tractor Data would have the specs for them.  D19 gas drinks fuel like no other from what I understand. 
Try driving a 4020 gas.


Or any Deere from that era,I'll say for the size tractor and what it can do my D19 gas isn't any harder on gas than any other gas tractor I run.For fuel economy my David Brown tractors and the Yanmar have them all beat for the work they'll do, they are diesels.
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My XT has the hydraulic pto.
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