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    Posted: 18 Jul 2015 at 11:18pm
Hi all, I just relocated my family from Indiana to Colorado and brought my AC D17 Series II with me.  Where I lived in Indiana everything was flat, not so at my new place.  I'm on hilly terrain and wanted to hear from you all about the D17s ability to work in the hills. I've got spinouts on the rear and the adjustable wide front end.  Should I spin the wheels all the way out?  How wide can I safely extend the front end?  I wish someone made a roll bar for this thing.  


Anyway, thanks for your council. 


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You'll pucker up for a while, but after a while, you be running in the hills just like a champ. Widening out the rears would probably be a good idea. Darrel
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Just be cautious of sharp turns while on steep hillsides. That's where the trouble lies.
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Thanks.  I have small JD 2320 that I was not too impressed with on the property.  Of course, I was using forks to carry around some implements for the AC and kept wanting to raise a tire of the ground, lol.  

On the D17 The front end has a lot of adjustment left.  If I move it to the last bolt hole, It will probably go out another foot on each side.  I know the hole is there, but just wondering if it's sturdy enough to run that far out on each side. 

The rears are only about half way out.  I've got at least 6" on each side I can go. 


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Thanks, I'll keep that in mind.
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Make sure your brakes are in good condition and adjusted properly.
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The front and rears should go out to 8' wide. I do a lot of bush hogging in the hills around here so I set my 175's out to at least 8', the one on the left is at 8' 6". Make sure your eccentrics or tight and the tires are properly inflated.
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Originally posted by Eldon (WA) Eldon (WA) wrote:

The front and rears should go out to 8' wide. I do a lot of bush hogging in the hills around here so I set my 175's out to at least 8', the one on the left is at 8' 6". Make sure your eccentrics or tight and the tires are properly inflated.


I know I've been needing to get some tires but have been putting it off. I'll set the wheels to 8'. Thanks for the advice.
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I've got all my wheels set in as far as they can (for 30 inch rows) and I've got goat mountains here! never had a any problems. just drive slower than you normaly would. if your scared...then back out...nothing wrong with being scared to drive anything anywhere!
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I have a d17 in new hampshire we have plenty of hills. I keep my power adjustable wheels pretty tight to keep them out of the hay when I bale. I believe the outside to outside on mine are about 7 feet. I have 16.9 28 for tires. It has been used like that since the 60's here by my grandfather.   Never had a problem with the d17 just watch how side ways you get on the hills. I try to go as straight on them as I can. Now the old farmall h is a different story she has been on her side many a time I am told by my uncle.
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Probably because of a higher center of gravity, eh Dan? 
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High center of gravity and I think my grandfather was famous for turning the narrow front end on the h about as sharp as he could to get down off the side of the hill before it stalled out for lack of power. The h never handled the change in load well. The AC governor on the d17 will open up before you know the tractor is on the hill. That quick power boost makes all the difference in the world. At some point I might restore the H then I can see for myself.
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1st of all welcome to Colorado! yes she is a bit more hilly than Indiana!!  LOL
What part of the state are you in?

Let's be careful at first, are you in the mountains or the plains with actual hills?  You comment about lifting a tire has me concerned.
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University of Kentucky ROPS application guide is available online.  Here in Vermont, the state ran a program a couple of years ago that would subsidize the purchase of a roll bar if one was available for your older tractor.  I wouldn't be suprised if other states have/do that as well.  Might be worth checking.
 
I do believe that they're a good idea.  In my 30 years of fire dept service, I've been to a few tractor accidents, and at least a couple of them have been had by older guys on tractors, and land, that they've owned for decades.  Bad stuff can happen to anybody, and a roll bar may not save you, but it might.
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we farmed alot of steep hills bales would come out of the baler and roll down intothe new windrow we never really ever had the wheels set out we had a d-17 wd45 s and 185  i guess it s what you grow up with allways kept good brakes tires and park brakes 
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Originally posted by DaSquatch DaSquatch wrote:

University of Kentucky ROPS application guide is available online.  Here in Vermont, the state ran a program a couple of years ago that would subsidize the purchase of a roll bar if one was available for your older tractor.  I wouldn't be suprised if other states have/do that as well.  Might be worth checking.
 
I do believe that they're a good idea.  In my 30 years of fire dept service, I've been to a few tractor accidents, and at least a couple of them have been had by older guys on tractors, and land, that they've owned for decades.  Bad stuff can happen to anybody, and a roll bar may not save you, but it might.


ROPS were never available for a D17.  One from a 170 or 175 might fit with some fender modification, but those are very hard to find.  I don't think there are any aftermarket ones made specifically for the D17 and CERTIFIED to protect the operator in the event of a rollover.

Move your wheels to the widest position and use good old common sense when on the hills.  Always use the "what if" scenario.


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Hills always scared me, being an Okie on the flat ground! So when I have to brushhog on a, what to me is steep, hill I just go up and down the hill. The side-to side stuff is a little much for me, even with the Ford 8N's low center of gravity.

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One other piece of advice if God forbid she ever does go over on you jump off the uphill side better to risk bumping a tire in the air then having the tractor land on you. Never been there but my grandfather would stand when he thought the h might go over and he did jump off a few times. Always easier to deal with a running tractor then a hurt person.
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I believe that you're correct.  I hadn't looked it up, just remembered that a friend found one that way for his Farmall Super C.  Funny that the comparatively modern, and much more usefull, d17 doesn't have one available.  I did find mention on another tractor site that Saf-T-Cab used to list one.  If that was true, I don't see any mention of it on their web site now. 
 
 
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Originally posted by Orange Blood Orange Blood wrote:

1st of all welcome to Colorado! yes she is a bit more hilly than Indiana!!  LOL
What part of the state are you in?

Let's be careful at first, are you in the mountains or the plains with actual hills?  You comment about lifting a tire has me concerned.

I'm in Berthoud in the foothills.  I have a JD 2320 with front loader.  I had the bucket off and forks on instead.  I know a couple of times I was going down hill and the tractor started to tilt to the left so I quickly bottomed the forks.  I have the wheels reversed on it so it's as wide as possible but even then it's not a very wide tractor.  
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Originally posted by DaSquatch DaSquatch wrote:

I believe that you're correct.  I hadn't looked it up, just remembered that a friend found one that way for his Farmall Super C.  Funny that the comparatively modern, and much more usefull, d17 doesn't have one available.  I did find mention on another tractor site that Saf-T-Cab used to list one.  If that was true, I don't see any mention of it on their web site now. 
 
 

I saw that as well.  I tried calling them just in case but the person I spoke with said they never carried one for the D17.
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