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SteveM C/IL 
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 Topic: D17 fliud levels/torque tube
Posted: 14 Jun 2012 at 12:01am |
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Left side hex plug is trans? What/why two dipstick/breather combos on right.One opposite hex plug and one up by pulley block off plate. Frt rt one was 3in over full mark,rr rt one spot on and hex plug about 1in over full. Drain some or not? TIA
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Jordan(OH)
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Posted: 14 Jun 2012 at 1:13am |
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Hex plug is PD, other is trans. One on side of housing is hydraulic. I wouldn't drain any, if you use any large cylinders you will need the extra in the hydraulic. I use mine on a Mayrath auger sometimes and it is at least 3in over all the time, forget how many gallons I had to add to get it to raise first time.
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MACK
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Posted: 14 Jun 2012 at 6:36am |
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If you are talking about allen head plug in side of torque tune, it is for the return from transport valve if it has one. The plug on right on top is trans. The one on top on left is for PD and Hyd. if series 111 or later. If it is early tractor hyd. will be on torque tube under fuel tank. MACK
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SteveM C/IL
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Posted: 14 Jun 2012 at 7:40am |
When I split it at clutch,oil started running out of front of hsg behind throwout brg. I had to suck some out the front compartment to make it quit. Been sitting it the barn for a year with no leak there. Is there a seal up there?
It's an earlier model.Lights on radiator,bypass oil.
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OrangePowerFranzen
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Posted: 14 Jun 2012 at 6:59pm |
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i just got our 17 back toghether and i have the same leak right behind the throw out bearing on the torque tube. i looked in the book and see there a gasket and 2 oil seals that are there, i plan on re splitting it and replacing it sometime next week, dont want to but have to. im going to check with agco tomarrow to see how much all that is, i hate to go there bc there prices are sky high! o well
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Posted: 14 Jun 2012 at 8:21pm |
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They aren't all that bad from AGCO, you will want the front gasket too. You need to drain the front torque tube housing, and leave the plug out, or you will get a bath when you pull out the front bearing "tube" that you are working on.
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Posted: 15 Jun 2012 at 12:36am |
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Well PHOOEY! It was kinda messy inside clutch hsg so I'd say it's been a seeper.Guess I ought to look into fixing that while it's split.Have no book and never been around a 17 so does that all fix from the front? Noticed the input shaft kinda runs uphill out of the sleeve so I'm guessing the PD is hanging on the back end and maybe the shaft cocking when split upset the seal/seals?
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Posted: 15 Jun 2012 at 5:50am |
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It is an easy fix, it all come out through the front. Just make sure you drain the oil first!!! As for the shaft being uphill, I bet the sleeve is what is actually crooked, but in any case rotate the input shaft a few times and make sure it is always in the same spot, i.e. does the crooked part rotate around, or does the close spot always stay at the top, i.e. is the shaft straight. I have a feeling that some of the tubes were welded crooked to the flange that holds them to the case. I have seen a couple dozen of the 17s apart, and at least two with a crooked bearing guide tube. It really doesn't hurt anything that I can see, as the throwout bearing tends to be loose enough on the carrier to allign with the cluth pressure plate, or the fingers on the pressure plate simply run in and out slightly as the flywheel rotates.
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Posted: 15 Jun 2012 at 7:39am |
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Thanks for input Orange. Rolled that shaft and seemed straight.
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Posted: 15 Jun 2012 at 11:59am |
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thank you i was going to ask the same thing about replacing it, i just hope i remember to drian the oil!!
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