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n17cattle 
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 Topic: D17 diesel starter? problems
Posted: 25 Apr 2019 at 11:04am |
Hello folks,
I have a d17 and its diesel, not sure of year.
Ran fine, has 12 volt system, alternator hasnt worked for a while.
now wont start, just a hard click when I turn the key to on, but nothing when I attempt to start it.
it has 2 solenoids mounted just front of the battery shelf.
Any suggestions on how to trouble shoot this thing would be greatly appreciated.
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Dusty MI
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Posted: 25 Apr 2019 at 11:12am |
Check the volts at the starter when trying start engine.
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DonDittmar
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Posted: 25 Apr 2019 at 11:19am |
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I solenoid is for the intake air heating element and the other would be for the starter. Dusty has a good test, also check the volts at the battery while attempting to start. Also, see if the engine will roll over by hand just for the H3!! of it........
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Posted: 25 Apr 2019 at 11:44am |
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You said the alternator has not worked in a while. Fix it, charge your battery and the tractor will start. A drained battery will make the solenoid click but not turn the starter.
Edited by DSeries4 - 25 Apr 2019 at 11:46am
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Posted: 25 Apr 2019 at 12:28pm |
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check and make sure engine isn't locked up.
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Posted: 25 Apr 2019 at 1:05pm |
it has a fully charged battery 13.6 volts ]
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Posted: 25 Apr 2019 at 1:07pm |
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it appears to be the solenoid... 12.8 on battery side 8.6 on starter side
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Posted: 25 Apr 2019 at 4:57pm |
Check all the cable/wire joints, it could just be a bad, loose and/or corroded joint/connection.
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Posted: 25 Apr 2019 at 5:49pm |
I put a new solenoid on it and had the exact same experience
So i pulled the starter and found the bendix stuck in the forward position
will attempt an internal clean-up and let you guys know how things worked out,
side note Ill be changing all of the connections and replacing any questionable wires or cables.
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Posted: 25 Apr 2019 at 6:28pm |
 n17cattle wrote:
it appears to be the solenoid... 12.8 on battery side 8.6 on starter side |
8.6 should be enough to turn the starter. What is the battery voltage while you are attempting to crank the engine?
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Posted: 26 Apr 2019 at 12:57pm |
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take jumper cables to starter ground on starter body and hot on starter where battery connects to starter if it tries to start work your way back
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Posted: 27 Apr 2019 at 12:55pm |
The Battery may have 13.6 standing volts, but to make sure its supplying enough power in the crank mode, you need to do a draw test on the Battery to make sure its good. Do a draw test. If the Battery is good, check & clean your connections. Wouldn't be a bad idea if you took the Starter motor to the local rebuilder and let him run some tests on the unit to make sure that's okay also... HTH Steve@B&B
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Posted: 27 Apr 2019 at 5:28pm |
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The starter was just dirty... internally after a good cleaning and shining my tractor is running again... thanks for the help Gents
Edited by n17cattle - 27 Apr 2019 at 5:29pm
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