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    Posted: 02 Jan 2020 at 12:33pm
Ok - new to forum. Bought my neighbors property, and with it i inherited a running Allis Chalmers D14. I have not examined it, but just saw it from about 10 feet away. The owner told me it starts great, runs, moves, but that the power steering pump leaks heavily. I googled D14 parts, and see that many are available, but only see 1 - seal for the power stock power steering pump. Given i have not looked at it yet, just wondering from other owners if the main seal (that is readliy available from parts dealers), is a normal culprit of these power steering pumps. Obviously , only way to know is to investigate and probably remove the steering pump. Looking for any insight anyone has . Thanks so much for any feedback! Toolman.
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90% of the time, the leaks start where the steering shaft goes into the front end. I believe the 'book' says you should roll the front end away from the engine to replace that seal.
 The pump seal might be a little easier to fix.
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Look it over close before tearing it apart. The D14 pump is engine driven from the gears in the front cover. I believe the pump will put steering oil in the engine if that pump shaft seal leaks, the engine should be gaining oil on the dipstick.
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I've seen or heard the pump going bad, or breaking in most cases.  The D15 pump will fit, but you have to notch the side rail for it to fit.  I doubt you will find a 14 pump.  Be gentle removing the lines if necessary.  They are formed steel pipe and are a pain to get reinstalled.
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Onetotaltoolman, Welcome to an exceptional forum.  Herb(GA)
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I removed and repaired the ps pump on my D14 a number of years ago. Took a LONG time and an equal amount of patience to detach the steel lines that John (MI) mentions....mostly as there's almost no room to swing a wrench. But it can be done. Finding parts......not so easy. I needed the two internal gears. New parts weren't available, but I was able to locate a pair from a similar pump that could be machined to fit.
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