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Cumulative Tree Trunk Diameter?

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    Posted: 29 Apr 2019 at 8:06pm
I need to get some systemic insecticide out to combat gall wasps.

This stuff gives the application per cumulative trunk diameter.  Google confused me on that subject.

If i have one pin oak standing alone in the yard,how do I determine the cumulative trunk diameter?  i have a grip on diameter and circumference, but they threw the word cumulative in on me now.  Confused


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call the mfr of the spray you're using that says 'cumulative trunk diameter'. I have NO idea what 'cumulative' means  wrt 'cumulative trunk diameter'.......
better yet ,post the stuff you're using so we can ALL call the MFR !!
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Volume Calculations

To calculate trunk volume, the tree is subdivided into a series of segments with the successive diameters being the bottom and top of each segment and segment length being equal to the difference in height between the lower and upper diameters, or if the trunk is not vertical, the segment length can be calculated using the limb length formula above. Whether using the aerial or ground based methods, the diameter or girth measurements do not need to be evenly spaced along the trunk of the tree, but a sufficient number of measurements need to be taken to adequately represent the changes in diameter of the trunk. Cumulative trunk volume is calculated by adding the volume of the measured segments of the tree together. Where segments are short, the volume of each segment is calculated as the volume of a frustum of a cone where volume is calculated by any of the three forms:

Volume= h(π/3)(r12 + r22 +r1r2)

Volume= h(π/12)(D12 + D22 +D1D2)

Volume= h/3(A1 + A2 +(A1A2)1/2)

A similar, but more complex formula can be used where the trunk is significantly more elliptical in shape where the lengths of the major and minor axis of the ellipse are measured at the top and bottom of each segment.[1][2]


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tree_volume_measurement

            


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cumulative for one tree is basically the AVERAGE diameter of the tree....  maybe something like 6 ft above the ground.......... on multiple trees it is the total of the trees.... if you have 10 trees and each is "about" a foot in diameter, then the CUMULATIVE diameter is 120 inches  ( 10 trees x 12 inch each).
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Dave H Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Apr 2019 at 9:52pm
that is kinda what i was thinking Steve.

Think I will give the company a call tomorrow for grins.

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there ya'll go...giving me another head ache!
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I think cumulative tree trunk diameter is same as diameter breast height(DBH).  Every coupla years the pointy headed egg heads have to change terms, to make themselves appear smarter, and baffle the non-members of their club...Wink
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I think Diy has the answer.  For me google cannot get the answer.

I am throwing in the towel and going with DBH.  Must be a cone head thing.  Confused

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so how big of diameter of tree CAN you put in the TRUNK ?  LOL   Wink
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Quote This stuff gives the application per cumulative trunk diameter.


In the case where a tree has only one trunk then diameter can be measured at breast height (DBH) or root crown (DRC).  From what i've read, the "cumulative" term applies when a tree has multiple trunks.  Special rules apply in this case.

Lots of explanation here, starting in section 5.9
 
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