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FREEDGUY ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 15 Apr 2017 Location: South West Mich Points: 5391 |
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dr p ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 24 Feb 2019 Location: new york Points: 1030 |
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The seeds are usually there, just best practice management keeps there from being a problem. Sounds like the owner of this field is maybe starting to transition into organic.
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FREEDGUY ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 15 Apr 2017 Location: South West Mich Points: 5391 |
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No, by NO means is this BTO getting into organic !! They blew in the CC with a 400+hp Deere wheeled 4x4 with a "high speed" drill/seeder last fall
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dr p ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 24 Feb 2019 Location: new york Points: 1030 |
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Guess it depends what he put in for a cover crop. King's agriseed is a small dealer around us. They make a lot of blends for cover crops with radishes, chicory and other weird stuff. If fact they call one of them ray's crazy mix. Maybe he didn't round up the cover crop
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jaybmiller ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 12 Sep 2009 Location: Greensville,Ont Points: 21720 |
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I've only ever used rye as a CC. One bag( bushel ?) for the 1/4 ac veggie patch. Never noticed any weed seeds as I hand broadcastted the rye out....
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Tbone95 ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 31 Aug 2012 Location: Michigan Points: 11440 |
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There are billions of weed seeds in the soil, expose them to sunshine and they'll grow. Been a fantastic year for weeds it seems. Cover crops or not, you still have to spray (or, organic you cultivate and whatever and hope and pray for the best....) Weeds never cease to amaze me. Kill them year after year after year, turn your back or get a little to late on spraying and you have a carpet of weeds. Even a couple % weed seed in a bag of seed would be a drop in the bucket compared to the seed in the soil.
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Red Bank ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 18 Apr 2018 Location: Germanton NC Points: 1049 |
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Ray54 ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 22 Nov 2009 Location: Paso Robles, Ca Points: 4384 |
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Tbone95 said a mouth full. Who every came with the idea that you could get rid of a weed after 7 years of keeping it out is lying.
I believe seeds can live in the ground thousands of years. Yes 99% of seeds may be dead in 7 years, but it only takes one seed to grow. The nasty weeds always make the most seeds.
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Tbone95 ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 31 Aug 2012 Location: Michigan Points: 11440 |
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Amaranth species have been shown to produce 140,000 SEEDS PER PLANT!!!! That’s a soybean population per acre almost.
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FREEDGUY ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 15 Apr 2017 Location: South West Mich Points: 5391 |
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What a RICHARD Head reply
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DiyDave ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 11 Sep 2009 Location: Gambrills, MD Points: 50810 |
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Aah the post number jealosy thing, again... Lets see, you have more than Red Bank, so that makes you better than him. Conversely, I have more than you! Catch me if you can! ![]() Do yourself a favor, stop bullying others, might be the beer talking, may just be your personality...
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FREEDGUY ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 15 Apr 2017 Location: South West Mich Points: 5391 |
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There's NEVER been foxtail, giaint ragweed, button weed, AND mares tail in this area in the last 20 years !!! It's has to be the CC seed
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FREEDGUY ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 15 Apr 2017 Location: South West Mich Points: 5391 |
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[QUOTE=Tbone95]Amaranth species have been shown to produce 140,000 SEEDS PER PLANT!!!! That’s a soybean population per acre almost. [/QUOTE
I recall our old seed rep telling HORROR STORIES about the Amarath weeds
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FREEDGUY ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 15 Apr 2017 Location: South West Mich Points: 5391 |
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So we're moving EAST from Missouri to Maryland
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dr p ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 24 Feb 2019 Location: new york Points: 1030 |
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We never see any foxtail in a dry year but in a wet year with fields with large amounts of nitrogen, it can destroy a soybean field in two weeks
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FREEDGUY ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 15 Apr 2017 Location: South West Mich Points: 5391 |
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Thanks Dr pepper
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Red Bank ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 18 Apr 2018 Location: Germanton NC Points: 1049 |
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Red Bank ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 18 Apr 2018 Location: Germanton NC Points: 1049 |
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Tbone95 ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 31 Aug 2012 Location: Michigan Points: 11440 |
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Well then it HAS to be. K, whatever. Or they changed tillage practices a year or two ago. Or something else. But you know. And….still had it been sprayed timely, you would have never noticed. |
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AC7060IL ![]() Orange Level ![]() Joined: 19 Aug 2012 Location: central IL Points: 3224 |
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Freedguy, the field you mention is probably a combination of 2021’s challenging weather(overly abundant spring/summer rains) & post COVID limited supplies?? Cover crops(CCs), in most states that watershed into the Mississippi River basin (states between the Rockies & Appalachians), are probably here to stay. It boils down to lots of changes which requires a new norm of thinking. For the CCs that don’t get frost-killed, an early season roll-down and/or herbicide burndown is required. My local coop informed me in March that their Liberty post herbicide supply was very limited, so we opted to used a more aggressive pre-plant.
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FREEDGUY ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() ![]() Joined: 15 Apr 2017 Location: South West Mich Points: 5391 |
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Thanks 7060, as of this evening, the plethora of weeds weeds in this field are turning "brown" after I "assume" a healthy dose of herbicides that are "still" legal to be applied
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DMiller ![]() Orange Level Access ![]() Joined: 14 Sep 2009 Location: Hermann, Mo Points: 29920 |
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Weed populations HERE, and IN MO. are the worst we as a group of neighbors have seen in a decade or more, not unheard of as noted due to perfect storm weather for them, and we have Foxtail by the Ton around here where the Spray Coupes have been more active that usual.
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