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    Posted: 04 Sep 2018 at 8:54pm
Greetings fellow Orange enthusiasts,

I plant corn with our Allis plate planter (300 model).  I use the Lustran JD plates with the AC adapter. 
We have a two acre field that my wife would like to plant in sunflowers next year.  Having never planted them, I am curious of the following items. 

1. What row spacing do you use?
2. Are the plates anything special (I have a lots of plates, and I see Lincold Ag has sunflower plates, but are they anything special?) or can I use one of my existing round plates? 
3. Has anyone harvested the seeds?  I figure that two acres might make enough that I can feed the wildlife for a while.  Can I use the corn head? do I use a grain head?  I would have to look in my Gleaner manual to see if there are settings  for the seives.

Thanks for your help. 
John
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talk to Darrel SD, he plants them
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oooops….I mean Darrel in ND! sorry...brain fart!
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This is the first year in about 10 to 12 years that I have not planted any. In the past, I've used the planter, but most recently, I've just been using my concord air seeder to plant them. My planter was on 30 inch rows, and I went for a population of just over 20,000 seeds per acre. I always used a planter with air units, first model 78 units, then later on 385 deutz units, so I really don't know much about plate planters. The seed disk that I used in the air units was the small/medium corn disk. But that doesn't have much relevance to a plate planter. You might just have to experiment. If you want to harvest bigger seeds, plant less seeds per acre. For smaller seeds, plant them a little thicker. The bigger ones will take longer to dry down for harvesting though. Your best variety for bird seed and wild life food will be a nu-sun, black oil variety. On a descent year, you can get 2,500 pounds per acre. at least that's in this area. You may get more where you are, if it rains more there. They are somewhat of a "drought type" crop, so if you get a lot of rain, they may not root down real good, will get real tall, and high winds can lay them over. As for combining them, a corn head will NOT work. Some folks who raise thousands of acres of them spend 100 grand on a header just for sunflowers. If you plant them on rows, an all crop header will work. What I use on my N6 Gleaner is a converted 24 foot rigid grain head. By "converted", what I mean is that there a few companies that make what they call "sunflower pans" for rigid grain heads. Basically, you remove the reel, and put these pans on. hard to describe them, so I won't. You could google Lucke Pans and see them. For two acres, you may get by just using a grain head as is. Long story short, you have to have a header that cuts the stalk so the whole heads go into the machine. Inside the combine, you need a concave/cylinder clearance of about 1 inch, plus or minus depending on the size of the sunflower head. Cylinder speed of roughly 600 RPM's. Small grain sieves work fine. Wind needs to be turned down, as sunflowers weigh 28 pounds per bushel vs 60 for something like wheat. Don't know what else to tell you. If you have any more questions, don't hesitate to ask. HTH. Darrel
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With 2 acres you may be like me planting Sunflowers what the deer don't nip off when they are small the birds take  care of just when they are starting to get ripe.
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